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Zydrik Scath [Undead]
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Player: Memnoch

Character Full Name: Zydrik Scath

Character In-Game Name: Zydrik

Association(s): Forsaken, Horde

Race: Undead

Class: Priest

Skills and Abilities:

Shadowy Focus: Zydrik has spent so long in his Shadow Form that he's finding it increasingly difficult to resume substantiation. In addition, he can disperse to pass through nearly any surface not magically protected or cast of metal or elven stone. (Anything with an opening such as a window, or anything which would naturally have cracks in it, such as brick walls, cobblestone, wood, etc.)

Power of the Mind: Zydrik has learned to take the idea of levitating his body and applying that to the objects around him within a very limited range. Anything within roughly arm's reach, he can pick up or manipulate. He can not throw anything very far in this manner, no more than if he were using his own, relatively weak arms. Small objects are the norm, while larger objects are much more difficult, meaning he could, with difficulty, lift a large claymore, or even open a door close to him, though this is the extent of the ability.

Age: 60

Sex: Male

Hair: Black

Eyes: Forsaken ghostlight

Weight: 210 (underweight due to rottage)

Height: 6'3"

Usual Garments/Armor: Black robes, gloves, and boots.

Other: Almost always in Shadow Form

Alignment: Chaotic Neutral

Personality: Zydrik tends to have an interesting view on things. He can usually find a silver lining in any given situation, even if it's one that doesn't make much sense, or bring much comfort. On the other hand, however, he tends to be extremely sarcastic. In other words, he may try to comfort someone, but it'll be in a way that tends to either confuse, or make things worse.

He's also rather Darwinist (the weak die while the strong survive), which leads him to become more sarcastic than normal around people he finds weak (read - unworthy of (un)life). To those he deems strong, he shows respect, and will sometimes try to offer guidance in his own...unique...way.

Yet, those who are weak, but wish to become strong, or even those who, for whatever reason, fall in the middle, Zydrik will try and help. He may feel as if the weak shall fail while the strong endure, but he doesn't take that into negativity, rather he wishes to take those who need saving, and raise them up. However, he will not take a direct hand in this, technically, instead choosing to challenge the other in a way to help them grow, be this physically, mentally, spiritually, or any other way he deems necessary.

History: Ever since Zydrik was a child, he's been exceptionally bright. While all the other children were out playing Catch-the-Cat, he was inside, pestering his father to teach him how to read. Once he learned how, he was off reading almost every book he could get his long-fingered hands on. He never thought twice about going outside and playing, wanting only to understand the world and how it worked; books were to him as schematics are to a typical gnome, he simply couldn't resist.

Ironically, he was originally not at all interested in the priestly ways, thinking that many of the men in these churches were so wrapped up in their faith that they could barely see past their own noses. However, when he was 30, and the Dark portal opened with the result of green-skinned orcs pouring out and decimating much of the human lands, he lost a close friend of his at the siege on the first Stormwind. One thing he knew for certain was that if he'd had the knowledge and power, he could have saved the man. In his grief, he came to a rather twisted conclusion: if his friend had been stronger, he wouldn't have died. This was the beginning of his Darwinist views on life, and it still sticks with him to this day.

After that battle, he began speaking to the priests who were on the battlefield, rather than the ones in chapels. He found that they had a much more down-to-earth way of thinking. What he was after was the knowledge of how to augment people's natural abilities, to prevent them falling to weakness like his friend had (from his perspective). After a while and a lot of practice, he began to develop the rudimentary healing skills and spells iconic to most priests. His path was not the Holy one, but rather Discipline of the mind, like those seen behind the front line, protecting and helping the soldiers in battle. His powers came not from his faith in the Light, but rather from his faith in the strength every individual has within them, and their ability to rise above what they were: less a faith in a deity, and more a faith in humanity.

His life remained much the same in this respect for a long while, all the way through the Third War. Up to this point, he'd not thought himself ready to be in the thick of a fight, but at Mount Hyjal, he finally stepped forward and began to flex his powers. His mental faculties provided strength for his spells, and he found, to his delight, that he could hold his own.

Upon returning home to Lordaeron, he started to try and make a living for himself at a local church. The priests at this little chapel were much more down to earth than the ones he'd grown up with, and he found himself more inclined to listen to what they had to say on the Light. Interested, he spent a great deal of his time in the chapel, learning what he could in the back from them.

When the attack on his home from the Lich King's forces occurred, Zydrik ran out into the thick of the battle, but this time, he was overly-arrogant from his successes at Mount Hyjal. Right as he was striking down one zombie, another came at him from behind, raising a sword....

Next thing Zydrik knew, he was standing in the forests of Lordaeron, having just been freed from Arthas' grip. To his dismay, several of the spells he knew now gave him such excruciating pain, he would only ever cast them if absolutely needed. Eventually, he ran into another priest who had followed a much darker path, the path of Shadow. He spoke of self-empowerment, and the strength that could be achieved through these spells. Learning a few things from this priest, Zydrik began to experiment with shadow magic, and used it with great success during the fighting preceding the founding of Undercity.

Zydrik kept mostly to himself at this point, experimenting and playing with shadow. He quickly mastered the technique of delving one's body partially into the shadow plane, and it felt quite wonderful to him, connected as he was to that place of power. He began to spend more and more time thusly, and after a while, Zydrik noticed something odd happening: it was becoming more and more difficult to re-materialize and extract himself from the Shadow Plane, though he does not consider this a set-back. Has also begun to utilize his old teachings of how to levitate his body, an apply them to manipulating small objects close at hand.

Recently, Zydrik has heard whispers of an organization in and around Undercity that teach self-empowerment and strength of oneself. He is trying to find out more.
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Quote:Weakening Reality: Zydrik has spent so long in his Shadow Form that he's finding it increasingly difficult to resume substantiation. He will sometime pass through inanimate objects (so long as they aren't magical or protected by magic, etc.) if he isn't careful.

Power of the Mind: When Zydrik was alive, he followed the path of Discipline. His mental acuity has not wavered in this respect, and he can use his mind to manipulate objects he has trouble handling physically. This is extremely short-range, however, use mostly for things like opening doors and picking things up, though anything heavy is still troublesome: no lifting boulders and tauren.

Unfortunately, these abilities do not keep in line with canon lore. They will have to be removed - that is, passing through objects in Shadow Form and telekinesis with Discipline magic. Apologies!
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Unfortunately I'd have to disagree on both counts in favor of the current skillset. One can pass through solid objects while in shadowform, (Aka The passive effect itself, if not though [Disperse]) and Telekinesis is simply a modified version of "Levitate." Which priests have been allowed to use since the debate on mage levitation.

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This has been discussed with the GM and Forum Helper team and was ruled that the items could be levitated, yes, but not moved unless it is brought to you like Life Grip or Leap of Faith. It was unanimously decided that Shadowform does not make one incorporeal. Dispersion is the only way one in Shadowform can pass through a solid object, but breaks in the barrier are absolutely necessary to allow for this to happen.
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I have updated the abilities, and last line of the second-to-last paragraph to reflect said changes to a more lore-friendly way, while still maintaining the core aspects.
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A few extra minor improvements, re-worded much of the afore-mentioned paragraph as it still felt awkward to me.
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Quote:Improved Shadowfiend: Zydrik has taken the ideas of shadowfiends, and taken them to the next level of utilization. He can use them to manipulate objects very near him. This is relatively short-range, however, used mostly for things like opening doors and picking things up, though anything heavy is still troublesome, obviously: no lifting boulders and tauren.

Using shadowfiends like this is a bit odd. Considering there's pretty much no lore on them, you're going to have to stick to what we do know: that they fight, not open doors. As Rini said, if you're insistent on this short range telekinesis, please make it a modification of the Levitate ability; you're fine with using to open door and pick up objects etc. Feel free to keep this specialisation you mention toward the end of the History, though.

Quote:rottage

While rottage does sound good, it's not actually a word. Change this one to rot or rot!

Quote:that the "God" the men

God in the religion of Light was retconned; it no longer exists in any form. Please change this accordingly! There's another mention a bit later in the History as well, so make sure to grab that too.

Quote:red-skinned orcs pouring out

Only green orcs came through the Dark Portal.

Quote:When the attack on Stormwind from the Lich King occurred

The Scourge didn't attack Stormwind in the Third War (when the Forsaken were raised), but Lordaeron and its holdings. Changing Zydrik to have worked in the Lordaeron cathedral rather than the Stormwind one would make everything work perfectly here. :)
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This isn't addressing the profile, however to provide a bit of clarification -

If shadow form made someone able to pass though objects, it would render them incredibly over-powered. Weapons couldn't hit them, they could escape any situation. They'd be immune to all but magic which is a no-go by our terms. Dispersion is able to do so so long as there are cracks in the wall or floor or what have you, however it's not a spam-able skill.
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(08-20-2013, 01:16 PM)Zhaei Wrote:
Quote:Improved Shadowfiend: Zydrik has taken the ideas of shadowfiends, and taken them to the next level of utilization. He can use them to manipulate objects very near him. This is relatively short-range, however, used mostly for things like opening doors and picking things up, though anything heavy is still troublesome, obviously: no lifting boulders and tauren.

Using shadowfiends like this is a bit odd. Considering there's pretty much no lore on them, you're going to have to stick to what we do know: that they fight, not open doors. As Rini said, if you're insistent on this short range telekinesis, please make it a modification of the Levitate ability; you're fine with using to open door and pick up objects etc. Feel free to keep this specialisation you mention toward the end of the History, though.

I'm sorry, and I realize this isn't even my profile, but... He -had- it as a modification of levitate and then you asked him to change it, and now you're asking him to change it back. He came to me for advice being that for whatever reason, he wasn't allowed to use levitate to move things.

I realize now that could have been a confusion with the fact that he said "Discipline" was his previous specialization, rather than outright saying he was using "Levitate" but Levitate is a Discipline skill.
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That being said, one can use shadowfiends however they see fit, as they are most often created, not summoned. There are approved profiles with everything from extra hands to pets to semi-sentient beings to fully sentient beings (Albeit the last required a partial soul sacrifice) and even created as mirror images of the caster in-game.

There -are- also summonable shadowfiends, yes, and -those- are the ones we have no lore on as you do not use or see them in game.

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What I denied was the character using his "mental acuity"/mind to have telekinesis. What I asked him for was a modification on the levitation ability to have the same thing. I realise it seems a convoluted way to reach the point, but the distinction between them is important.
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(08-20-2013, 03:43 PM)Zhaei Wrote: What I denied was the character using his "mental acuity"/mind to have telekinesis. What I asked him for was a modification on the levitation ability to have the same thing. I realise it seems a convoluted way to reach the point, but the distinction between them is important.

That is what Levitate... is... In fact it's exactly what levitate is. Priests are divine casters, they don't use traditional spellforms like a mage. A mage would not require psychic ability to levitate something where a priest absolutely does.

EDIT: Unless of course you're one of them new-fangled Secular priests like photomancers or shadowmancers.

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Levitate is to raise your body from the ground. The GM team is willing to extend that to objects. The only way one can move objects is to, similarly, use a spell that would bring people or objects to them - Leap of Faith or Life Grip.
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Surely that extends to shadowfiends, for those perpetually unable to use the Light or while in shadowform? (You can't use Leap of Faith in shadowform and life grip isn't actually a spell.)

Edit: Or at least, WoWiki lists it as a holy spell.

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Guys, the last thing I want this to turn into is an argument. I'm working on a response putting my thoughts out in a neat order, just give me a few moments to finish it, and then make the appropriate changes to the profile.

Forum Helpers: the question remains about -how- to go about manipulating objects without using one's body as a Shadow Priest in Shadow Form. Levitate is not a holy spell, and I can therefor put that down as the reason and roleplay accordingly. Conversely, I have RPed with distinct members of the server who, as Ozewse said, have approved profiles and use Shadow Fiends to do more than fight, but as commandable creatures to carry out the priest's bidding. This isn't a huge leap of logic, in my opinion, being as the Shadow Priest -creates- the Shadow Fiends, not summons them, and would therefor know how they are constructed (on an individual basis, not just as a whole). Telling a fiend to "go pick up that spoon" seems just as, or less complicated than telling it to "go attack that person". If someone disagrees, that's fine, I'll revert back to the original form, using a twist on Levitate like Rini said. This seems to be the general consensus at the moment, and I will alter the profile immediately after posting my next comment.

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Quote:Improved Shadowfiend: Zydrik has taken the ideas of shadowfiends, and taken them to the next level of utilization. He can use them to manipulate objects very near him. This is relatively short-range, however, used mostly for things like opening doors and picking things up, though anything heavy is still troublesome, obviously: no lifting boulders and tauren.

Using shadowfiends like this is a bit odd. Considering there's pretty much no lore on them, you're going to have to stick to what we do know: that they fight, not open doors. As Rini said, if you're insistent on this short range telekinesis, please make it a modification of the Levitate ability; you're fine with using to open door and pick up objects etc. Feel free to keep this specialization you mention toward the end of the History, though.

As a note, the exact wording I had used to describe the original skill was something about "using his mind to manipulate the objects around him", though within the same range (very limited, like arm's reach, maybe a slight bit longer as he got better over a long period of time). This therefor might have been the confusing point, whether it was a twist on a localized Levitate, or if it was telekinesis. I'm fine with either way, fiends or levitation :)

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God in the religion of Light was retconned; it no longer exists in any form. Please change this accordingly! There's another mention a bit later in the History as well, so make sure to grab that too.

According to Wowwiki, you are absolutely correct! It was retconned. However, the part of the history this is mentioned in is pre-Third War, when humans still believed in, and worshiped, God. Therefor, the part of that section is historically correct in the period to which it is referencing. If you still want me to change it, I will...but then it would make less sense from the character's point of view to out of nowhere decide they want to begin studying the Light.

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Only green orcs came through the Dark Portal.

Brain derp. Thought they were red on the first outpouring. Fixed this, and have updated my mental stock of lore :)

I really need to look at orc lore specifically one of these days.

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The Scourge didn't attack Stormwind in the Third War (when the Forsaken were raised), but Lordaeron and its holdings. Changing Zydrik to have worked in the Lordaeron cathedral rather than the Stormwind one would make everything work perfectly here. :)

I must be confusing this with something else; the attacks on Stormwind and Orgrimmar happened after the Arthas/Lich King merger, then?



I want to make something clear on the point @Reigen made.

Quote:If shadow form made someone able to pass though objects, it would render them incredibly over-powered. Weapons couldn't hit them, they could escape any situation.

You are absolutely correct, and I support you standpoint 100%, actually. In fights, I wouldn't dream of giving myself this kind of advantage. In the normal course of things, what would have happened is that if Zydrik got into a fight, that "passing through stuff" would not be taken into account, and I'd fight as if it were a non-issue; that is, nonexistent. I dislike making over-the-top character, honestly, and especially in roleplay. What the idea behind this character was that he used to be a Disc. priest, and has now fallen into Shadow. Because of this, he still has a formidable mind/mental skills, and the training to back them up, however his body is now weakening in a sense (balancing the scales kind of thing).

The passing through things wasn't a huge leap after looking at the tooltip of the ability, you become 15% harder to hit, off the bat. Next is that your shadow spells are a quarter more powerful than normal, and that's after the bonuses you get from being a Shadow Priest in the first place, mind; so it looks like it's not being so much as simply connected to the Shadow Plane, as literally putting a part of yourself into it, meaning that part is no longer in Azeroth, and therefor cannot interact with the Material Plane, being that it's elsewhere.

Besides that, it wasn't a perfect thing in it's original form anyway. The exact word I used was "sometimes", bouncing off the spell's description of 15%, not 100%. If this were incorperated in combat in anyway, what would have to happen (from my standpoint) is that during a roll fight, if I won the defense, the sword/arrow/etc. might pass through him, and only if I won the defense roll, much like if someone got their shield up in time, or parried a blow.

Basically, this was more or less an aesthetic idea for RP, not for combat. Shadow Priests are already powerful enough as is without adding to the fray.
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(08-20-2013, 05:20 PM)Memnoch Wrote:
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God in the religion of Light was retconned; it no longer exists in any form. Please change this accordingly! There's another mention a bit later in the History as well, so make sure to grab that too.

According to Wowwiki, you are absolutely correct! It was retconned. However, the part of the history this is mentioned in is pre-Third War, when humans still believed in, and worshiped, God. Therefor, the part of that section is historically correct in the period to which it is referencing. If you still want me to change it, I will...but then it would make less sense from the character's point of view to out of nowhere decide they want to begin studying the Light

Please do change it, as it was retconned - meaning that it was deemed to never have happened.
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