Conquest of the Horde - [WoW] Lore

Dwarves, Gnomes, and old age?

Tue, 20 Jan 2015 07:50:21 -0800

So recently I was wanting to profile a Dwarf who has been through the War of the Three Hammers, since the life span page on the wiki says that they can live up to the age of 450. Yet they're venerable at the age of 250 (200 for Gnomes)? What allows venerable Dwarves and Gnomes to live that extra 200 years? There's a good old 'citation needed' on the page for life spans, so maybe someone here can confirm why this is.

Death Knight reanimating himself.

Wed, 24 Dec 2014 06:46:22 -0800

Would it be possible for a Death Knight to reanimate his own body using blood magic?
Lets say my Death Knight wants to regain his humanity. And he artificially makes his blood flow again using blood magic, going through immense pain to reanimate his organs and muscles.
From what I have gathered, DK's souls is infused back into his, now dead, body.
And considering it should be possible to regenerate tissue and reinstate blood flow using rune magic. It should be theoretically possible to reanimate his body to feel almost human again.
My though is to have his body reanimated, which means he will be able to have biological processes going on, being able to eat, drink, get drunk, feel etc. Which would lead to me being able to RP the process of him being reanimated, reactions to a DK with a living body, being able to join people in eating and drinking.

To clarify, I dont want to un-DK the DK. He will still be undead. But his body will be like a working organic golem which he will have to maintain with blood rune magic.

The Quilboar Qompendium

Tue, 23 Dec 2014 09:56:52 -0800

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Well, making this post was one heck of a ride, and probably more work than it ought to have been. However, I'm glad to unveil it - the hopefully most comprehensive Quilboar lore thread that will ever be seen, mostly because nobody else is daft enough to try and create a Quilboar lore thread. Hopefully, should anybody ever for some reason have a question about Quilboar of any size, shape or height, they can consult this thread and answer it! That's the idea, anyway.

The thread should speak for itself, but it's essentially every bit of lore I could pluck from every source I could find without driving myself batty. The two main categories are the RPG and quests, and then there's a big wild-card one where I just chuck things in that are interesting in their own right.

None of this is really custom lore, since apart from the RPGs it all comes from official sources, and even the RPG has been heavily vetted for stuff that was written prior to WoW being released and any particularly contradictory stuff.

I think that's really all I should say here, before it gets any worse than it has. To answer the prevailing 'why?', it's... Uh, well, I guess I just like Quilboar a lot, and I think they're probably the most interesting non-playable race (possibly even ranking higher than a bunch of the playable ones, too). So, have a look inside!

Warcraft RPG Sources

Source	Lore
Manual of Monsters Spoiler:	Quilboar are: primitive, resilient; aggressive and efficient warriors who can handle single combat. Quilboar have higher constitutions than races around them and are capable of living in unforgiving lands. Quilboar are less (traditionally) intelligent and charismatic than other races. The spines on a Quilboar's back are razor sharp. Quilboar speak Low Common. Quilboar live in the Barrens, and center in Razorfen Downs. Their population is scattered and fringes other societies. The Quilboar have existed at least since the War of the Ancients. The Sundering and War of the Ancients have made the Quilboar into a reactionary race in a hostile land. The Quilboar fight primarily for conservation and preservation of resources and for (slivers of) land. The Quilboar are fervent enemies of the Tauren. Quilboar are taught from a young age to hate sapient creatures. Quilboar battle tactics often feature ambushes and self-sacrifice. Quilboar would rather die in battle than of old age, and so older warriors attack stronger enemies for a heroic death. Quilboars combat with single-minded ferocity and generally fight to the death. Quilboar favor the flail as a weapon, but often improvise. Quilboar warbands are led by shamans, smaller groups by the strongest warrior. Warbands maintain their own territories and don't cross them, unless united by a powerful leader. The Quilboar family unit is based more on strong warriors and discouraging weakness; women and children defer to men. Strength is highly valued in Quilboar society; weak children are left to die. Deference is also highly valued; physical strength dictates deference between men, but all defer to the shaman. Punishment for not deferring is maiming and death (death more common for females and the old to cull the weak) Quilboar society is a shamanic theocracy; large tribes have shamans as leaders. Quilboar shamans have control over disease, nature and can summon spirit boars. Teachings include that disease is brought by intruding races (therefore they must be driven out). Shamanic teachings of the afterlife involve pleasures beyond imagining. Razormanes are one of two prominent Quilboar tribes, and raid and pillage nearby settlements. Bristlebacks are the second tribe, and are generally larger than most Quilboar. Not Included References to Pandaren not mentioned; heavily and brutally retconned off of the face of Kalimdor. The lore involving a male-dominated Quilboar society and repressed females has been contradicted in-game extensively. The Quilboar's 120ft darkvision in the RPG is ignored as it's reduced to 60ft in later books, and is double that of a trogg. While some of the rule-specific info (their statistics, environment and abilities) are used here, most are irrelevant as lore.
Monster Guide Spoiler:	Quilboar are: ferocious, fanatic, suicidally brave and slavishly devoted to their people. Quilboars' skin is as tough as leather, and they display great strength and hardiness. Quilboar have incredible fortitude and can often survive blows that would often kill other races. The average Quilboar male is 5'6" tall and weighs 225lb. Females are 5' and 150lb. Quilboar reach physical and societal maturity at about three years. Quilboar are capable of using their quills as natural weapons. Quilboar are omnivorous but prefer meat. Quilboar are less intelligent and charismatic than other sapient races, but make up for it in common sense and intuition. Quilboar speak Common and Low Common, but are capable of learning enemy languages as well. Quilboar can see well in the dark. Quilboar have a good sense of smell. Quilboar overwhelmingly live in the Barrens, and prefer temperate or warm environments otherwise. The homes of the Quilboar are enormous briars spawned from the blood of Agamaggan. The Quilboar are constantly threatened by enemies. Quilboar fight in order to: increase the size of their tribe, preserve their species and keep their land. Quilboar fight best in packs; despite impressions of disorganisation, they have a grasp on tactics. Quilboar will flank enemies whenever possible, and gang up on stronger opponents. Quilboar charge rapidly into battle and emit frenzied battle cries while fighting. Retreat is considered a sign of weakness. Quilboar gain a fervent morale when allies die among them. Quilboar often battle with amusement and bravery. Self-sacrifice is incredibly common for Quilboars in battle. Quilboars' weapons and armor are generally simple; spears, hammers and javelins common. Quilboar maintain a rigid social structure focused on the tribe rather than individual. Quilboar reject foreign laws and have their own, which they follow with significance. There is no family unit; mothers do not coddle children, females compete for males and children are raised communally. In Quilboar society, rivalry and jealousy is suppressed for the greater good - cooperation is encouraged. Males overwhelmingly take the path of the warrior, while females are domestically focused. Either can become shamans. Females are not looked down on, and either sex accepts their roles with strong instincts. Female Quilboar of exceptional physical strength can be deemed a man, becoming a warrior and taking female mates. Quilboar value their lives in reference to the tribe. Quilboars accused of being weak by shaman would rather die than be exiled. Elderly/Weak/Crippled Quilboar take the festive ceremony of 'taking the walk', wandering into wilderness to die. Women past child-bearing age will seek ritual suicide. Quilboar shamans are generally the leaders or power-holders within tribes. At least one Quilboar becomes a shaman per generation. Quilboar destined to become shamans are visited by deceased shamans in their dreams. These dreams may instead urge them to leave the pack to seek greatness. Males are more often chosen, but female shaman are not uncommon. Quilboar shamans teach survival of the fittest, that the weak must be culled for the strong. Shaman have the final say in most, if not all, tribal matters. Not Included Most of the Quilboar as Characters section, as it involves very rare circumstances and wouldn't be seen much if at all. A minority of the race rules; irrelevant things like treasure, challenge rating, etc.
Dark Factions - Races/Factions part Spoiler:	Quilboar are: primitive, aggressive, swinelike, large and strong. Quilboar are large, strong and hardy, but not particularly quick-witted or bright. Quilboar have dry, prickly hair, the head of a boar, stocky build and jutting tusks. Quilboar are seen as ugly by most races - pigs crossed with humans. A Quilboar can use their quills as a weapon, but prefer manufactured ones. The average Quilboar stands at 5'6" and 255lb. Quilboar rarely wear clothes aside from tattered shorts. Quilboar can see well in the dark. Quilboar can use scent to detect approaching and hidden enemies and track them. They recognise familiar smells. The Quilboar have never been a dominant race on Kalimdor, and live in desolate places. Most Quilboar live in the Barrens, but have been known to occasionally range farther. Quilboar prefer to live in bramble thickets, sprouted from splashes of Agamaggan's blood. Quilboar are fiercely territorial and generally attack others on sight, with little room for alliances. The Quilboars' primary enemies are the Tauren and Orcs, but they resist interlopers of any origin. Quilboar language is guttural, multisyllabic and consists of snorts and growls. Quilboar surnames are given for memorable deeds. Examples: Mudwater, Orcbane, Razorflank, Snarlsnout, Thorncurse, Thornmantle. Examples of male given names: Achengrok, Murgrek, Thagmagron, Verrmalk. Examples of female given names: Almondi, Egrenna, Gormeginia. Quilboar are fiercely loyal to their tribe and instinctually desire to make them - and their race - as powerful as possible. Their society is built around supporting strong warriors and shaman, who are usually male; females generally care for young. Quilboar shaman are both common and integral to their society and military. Quilboar worship Agamaggan, the boar ancient who fell fighting the Burning Legion, as their creator. Quilboar have not historically practiced necromancy, but are rumored to have begun recently. Not Included Word-for-word repeats of the Monster Guide content haven't been written down again; the entire racial traits section except for scent have been ignored.
Dark Factions - Vital Statistics Spoiler:	Quilboar become adults at 18, middle aged at 30, elderly at 47, venerable (highly unlikely) at 69 and can never live longer than 81. Not Included Class starting age modifiers are irrelevant. The RPG height/weight is contradicted by in-game and the previous sources , where Quilboar are only slightly shorter than Orcs.
Dark Factions - Variant Classes Spoiler: Quilboar Shaman — Quilboar Thornweaver While primitive, quilboar have a rich spiritual tradition. Their shaman, sometimes called thornweavers, are valued members of the tribe; indeed, shaman are often their leaders. Quilboar respect their shaman, and in turn the shaman aid them in war. While quilboar thornweavers enjoy using their spells to decimate their enemies, they know that the actual slaying should fall to the tribe’s warriors. Thus, thornweavers support their allies with healing magic and by summoning allies. They have a particular fondness for wild boars. All quilboar honor the ferocity of boars, and the animal is their race’s totem creature. Thornweavers call upon vengeful spirits of nature, eschewing the peaceful spirits and the gentle side of the Earth Mother that most tauren revere. The iconic quilboar thornweaver strides forward with his tribe members, clutching a flail. He plants totems in their midst and summons spirit pigs to aid them, then charges into melee with a fearsome grunt-squeal. Quilboar Thornweaver Alterations A quilboar thornweaver does not gain Brew Potion at 1st level, the ghost wolf inspiration at 8th level or the purge inspiration at 12th level. Instead, he gains the following class features, at the indicated levels: • 1st-Level — Bonus Feat: Quilboar have a tradition of shamanism. The thornweaver gains the Magical Heritage feat (see below) as a bonus feat. If he does not possess at least one level in the quilboar racial class, he instead gains Fetish Spell (presented in the Horde Player’s Guide) as a bonus feat, even if he does not meet the prerequisites. • 1st-Level — Pack Casting (Ex): Seeing his comrades fall inspires the thornweaver to greatness, as it does with all quilboar; in addition, the departing ally’s spirit briefly infuses him with power. When the thornweaver’s pack fighting racial trait grants him a +1 morale bonus on attack and damage rolls, he also gains a +1 morale bonus to his caster level. This bonus applies to level-dependent aspects of his spells, such as range and duration. If the thornweaver has the greater pack fighting or supreme pack fighting abilities (from taking levels in the quilboar racial class), his morale bonus to caster level increases to a possible +2 or +3, as appropriate. This increase in caster level lasts for as long as the morale bonus on attack and damage rolls (i.e., for the duration the current encounter). • 8th-Level — Ghost Boar (Su): This ability functions like ghost wolf, except the thornweaver turns himself into a boar (see the Monster Guide web extras: Animals). • 12th-Level — Strength of Agamaggan (Su): The thornweaver can channel his magical and spiritual power to increase his strength and ferocity, calling upon the power of the quilboar’s creator, the demigod Agamaggan. As a free action the thornweaver can sacrifice a prepared spell to imbue himself with this power. He gains an enhancement bonus to Strength or Stamina equal to the level of the sacrificed spell and retains these bonuses for 1 minute per caster level. In addition, by sacrificing a 5th-level spell in this way, the thornweaver can instead increase his size, with the same effects as an enlarge person spell (see Chapter 4: Magic and Faith).	The Quilboar are primitive, but maintain intricate spiritual traditions. Quilboar shamans are specifically called thornweavers. Judging by their name, they also likely have dominion over brambles. These thornweavers are respected and particularly important in times of war. Thornweavers do not immediately wade into melee, preferring to support warriors with their magic. Thornweavers are very distinct from Tauren shaman; they revere boars and call upon vengeful spirits of nature and their kind, more like Orcs. Appropriately, they become spirit boars rather than ghost wolves (like Orcs). They are capable of healing, calling upon spirit boars and planting totems. Like all other Quilboar, thornweavers are encouraged by allies falling; in fact, the spirits of the recently dead temporarily empower the shaman. The most powerful of these thornweavers can call upon Agamaggan himself to massively increase their physical power (even to the point of growing in size) Once done supporting their allies, a thornweaver can charge into battle himself, preferring to wield a flail. Not Included The elements of the class which are just referring to the existing shaman RPG class have been ignored (i.e., most of Pack Casting)
Dark Factions - Races and Technology Spoiler: Quilboar Quilboar are a primitive race, with little knowledge of technology. When shown a scientific device, they see it as another type of magic item. To them, there is little distinction between the two arts — and technology is far too difficult to learn. Although a few rare quilboar dabble in the “new magic,” none have yet produced any noteworthy inventions.	The Quilboar are primitive and consider magic and technology one and the same. Quilboar find technology difficult to learn in comparison with magic. Rarely, Quilboar have dabbled in tech, but with no noteworthy discoveries or inventions.
Dark Factions - I Like Fightin' Best / Forces Spoiler:	Quilboar forces are ruthless in battle; they appear to blindly charge into battle and throw themselves with abandon into the heaviest fighting. Rather than swarming the enemy, the Quilboar understand formation tactics and work in rigid packs, identifying and coordinating against the toughest enemies. The Quilboar fear death much less than other races; death is merely unwelcome, and the death of an ally in battle incites the remainder to feats of strength and cunning. Quilboar do not retreat; they fight until one of them is dead. Their enemies often fear this trait; they will not stop until everything in their path is dead. Quilboar believe that their packmates fight even after physical death. Quilboar thornweavers act as commanders in most battles, and both heal and inspire warriors. Larger packs can contain more than one thornweaver. Thornweavers, unlike other spellcasters, revel in melee combat. Thornweavers can summon healing wards (totems), summon spirits (often, but not exclusively boars) and infuse spells into wards. The death of allies infuses the Quilboar's spells and physical strength. A thornweaver generally has high concentration and knowledge of their peoples' religion. The average possessions of a thorncaster includes: A flail, chain shirt, wooden shield, spell pouch and spell book. Powerful warriors of the Quilboar are often prominent in these warpacks. These warriors often have improved awareness, survival skills and pure brawn, but are often illiterate and gain little in the way of knowledge. The average possessions of such a warrior include: a longsword, leather armor and potions - including rejuvenation, healing and regeneration. Not Included Obviously, the uncropped information on Pandaren and Satyr. Most of the character statistics have been ignored since they're far more in the realm of mechanics than actual information about the classes, and reiterate racial traits. Some of the thornweaver spells are omitted because they're generic shaman spells (i.e. frostbrand/flametongue as weapon enchants)
Horde Player's Guide - Magic Items Spoiler:	Quilboar packs will attack single opponents. Quilboar squeal and grunt while entering and during battle. Sometimes, Quilboar run away. Quilboar may be fearful of items of great importance or foreign magic. The horn axe is affiliated with Cenarius; they may fear other ancients. Not Included The story is mostly just to show off the weapon, and only the relevant parts have been taken, which is a minority.
Horde Player's Guide - Threats to the Horde Spoiler: The Scourge Only recently has the Scourge dared to expand back into Kalimdor, and their primary focus is on an unusual location — the Razorfen Downs in the Barrens. There, Amnennar the Coldbringer, a lich, has corrupted a solid half of the native quilboars. In addition, he brought other undead along with him, such as ghouls and a fearsome abomination. While this may not seem like a major threat, I recently learned that the Coldbringer has a direct telepathic connection with the Lich King. This fact changes the scenario a bit; with Amnennar controlling the quilboars and the Lich King guiding him directly, this lone lich could be a considerable threat. Due to his location in the Barrens, it appears that the lich intends to throw his army directly against the Horde settlements in the Barrens; not a good thing, considering this would put the Horde between a Scourge force in the south and the Alliance-dominated forests in the north of Kalimdor. While I’m sure the Alliance isn’t fond of the idea of an army of undead quilboars either, it is unlikely that the Alliance would send much or any aid to deal with the lich until far after it is too late.	At least half of the Quilboars within the Razorfen were turned undead. The forces within Razorfen Downs have been bolstered by imported Scourge creatures. Amnennar has (had) a direct connection with the Lich King; that the invasion of the Quilboar in particular was intended by the Lich King himself. The intent is to assault Horde settlements with the undead army. The Alliance has little interest in stopping said army, making it a threat only to the Horde.
Lands of Mystery - Kalimdor Spoiler: The Barrens Camp Taurajo (camp, 500): Tauren run this camp, and Jorn Skyseer leads it. It lies along the Gold Road, south of Crossroads. The camp is concerned with defending against the encroaching quilboar, and often holds captured quilboar prisoners. I suspect that if the threat of the quilboar is ever removed, they may turn their attention toward our people in Bael Modan, and that could pose a threat to the excavation. Razorfen Downs and Razorfen Kraul: Following Agamaggan’ s defeat (see “History,” below), quilboar occupied the sites of his fallen body, Razorfen Kraul and Razorfen Downs. Here the most powerful quilboar tribe in the land, the Razorfens, practices shamanistic magic and stages attacks on rival tribes and Horde villages. Charlga Razorflank leads the Razorfens. Rumors hint that Charlga may be in negotiations with agents of the Scourge. In the Downs, the Death’s Head tribe has already been turned by the undead. A powerful Lich named Anmennar the Coldbringer commands the undead in Razorfen Downs, and he has many powerful creatures under his control, including a massive abomination. History Ten thousand years ago, an Eternal boar named Agamaggan fought in the battle against the first coming of the Burning Legion. While Agamaggan was among the mightiest creatures alive, eventually the pit lord Mannoroth the Destructor defeated Agamaggan, and where the Eternal’s blood fell, massive, thorn-ridden vines sprouted from the earth. These vines are still found throughout the Barrens, and it is in these places that the quilboar build their villages. It is believed that Razorfen Kraul and Razorfen Downs are the sites where Agamaggan’s body fell, and his bones remain there to this day. Durotar Beyond the Horde, harpies, centaur and quilboar are prevalent in specific regions of Durotar, attacking caravans and neighboring villages. These prove to be some of the first challenges for young warriors before they move on to bigger battles; these creatures are hardly organized enough to pose a major threat. Mulgore People and Culture Although the tauren have tried to share their land, the continuous encroachment and lack of respect shown by factions such as quilboar, harpies and the Venture Company result in escalating conflict in the region. Brambleblade Ravine: Quilboar have taken up residence here, where massive, thorny vines sprout from the earth, similar to those found outside Razorfen in the Barrens. The tauren find the quilboar to be a growing problem, and will likely take stronger action to eradicate them soon. Red Rocks: The Red Rocks are a sacred, ancestral burial ground where dead tauren lie wrapped in cloth atop wooden pyres. Quilboar have recently desecrated the grounds and scavenge the bodies for valuables.	Camp Taurajo existed partly as a bulwark against Quilboar and as a prison for those they capture. The loss of Taurajo would point the Quilboar in the direction of Bael Modan Ten thousand years ago, the mighty eternal Agamaggan was eventually defeated in combat with Mannoroth the Destructor during the War of the Ancients. Where his blood fell, massive, thorned vines grew, found primarily in the Barrens. Quilboar build villages among them. Agamaggan's fallen body and bones spawned the Razorfen Kraul and Downs, the capital of the strongest tribe, the Razorfen. The Razorfen practice shamanic magic and fight both other tribes (save the Death's Head) and the Horde, lead by Charlga Razorflank. Charlga is rumored to be negotiating with the Scourge. The Death's Head tribe within Razorfen Downs has been turned undead, controlled by Amnennar the Coldbringer and his Scourge creatures. Quilboar are prevalent in specific regions of Durotar as well, and conduct raids on caravans and villages. They are not a major threat in this region. The Tauren had attempted to share land in Mulgore before, which was foiled by the Quilboar's encroachment and lack of respect. The Quilboar have taken residence in Brambleblade Ravine and are a growing problem. It is likely that it is another site where Agamaggan's blood fell, rather than being warped by the Quilboar. The Quilboar have desecrated Tauren burial sites for valuables, and likely have either no respect or knowledge of Tauren customs.
Shadows & Light - Eternals Spoiler: The Ancients Perhaps more so than other Eternals, the Ancients of the night elves are treated like deities. Primal spirits of the natural world when it was young, they personify its most distinct and most powerful qualities. Although several of them were effectively destroyed during the War of the Ancients and in later conflicts, they are honored still by races such as centaur, furbolgs, night elves and quilboar. Agamaggan - Background Night elf legend tells that Agamaggan was one of the first creatures ever to wander the raw and untamed land. Driven ever onward by his voracious appetite, he grew larger and larger and was drawn into conflict against ever more powerful creatures. Respecting that the night elves’ growing mastery of magic might be a match for his raw strength, Agamaggan’s wanderings took him far from the lands of the elves and led him battle against the savage trolls. When the Burning Legion arrived on Azeroth and the War of the Ancients began, Cenarius journeyed to the land of the trolls to seek the assistance of Agamaggan against the invading demons. His stomach sated with trollflesh, the boar god was only convinced to bother with mortal concerns after Cenarius persuaded him that if the Legion were left unchecked, it would eventually destroy all life in the world. Impatient for battle and unwilling to wait for a coordinated attack, Agamaggan was one of the first to assault the demons’ stronghold on the shores of the Well of Eternity. Cutting through more than a thousand of the Doomguard, he entered single combat against the pit lord Mannoroth. There, after a battle that raged across the countryside, Agamaggan finally encountered the battle he could not win, and fell — but not without creating a vital weakness in the Legion’s defenses that later allowed Cenarius and the night elf forces to reach the Well and end the war. Today, the quilboar believe that wherever the blood of Agamaggan fell during his final battle, it soaked into the soil to create a mineral the quilboar call “bloodstone.” Wherever bloodstone is found, giant thorns grow from the earth, and it is near these thorns that the quilboar prefer to make their homes. During the time he walked the wilds of Azeroth, Agamaggan proved his strength again and again until he was one of the most feared creatures in the world. Today he is the patron of the quilboar tribes, nearly all of whom revere the boar god and pray for his return. This worship usually takes the form of sacrifices and the consumption of burnt offerings, though on occasion more zealous worshippers will engage in single combat. Legends - Aviana's Story Aviana saw the body of Agamaggan a short distance away. The gigantic boar sprawled atop more than four score of the enormous Doomguard that he had defeated before falling.	According to Night Elves, Agamaggan was one of the first creatures on Azeroth - an Ancient, a primal spirit of the natural world. Due to his appetite, Agamaggan grew continually larger and had to fight greater creatures. During this period, Agamaggan grew to be one of the most feared creatures in the world. Agamaggan avoided the Elves due to their mastery of magic, traveling south to the troll lands, where he devoured many of them. Cenarius called upon Agamaggan's aid during the War of the Ancients, who was only begrudgingly convinced with the fact that they'd destroy all life. Impatiently, he was the first to assault the Well of Eternity's demon-held shores, easily going through over a thousand Doomguard. Agamaggan was capable of fighting Mannoroth in extended single combat, but eventually fell, sprawled on top of eighty doom guard he'd destroyed earlier. It is taught that where his blood fell during this battle (and likely further displaced during the ensuing Sundering), a mineral called bloodstone grew. This bloodstone is considered to be the cause of the great thorns throughout Kalimdor. Quilboar today worship Agamaggan as their patron, and pray for his return. Typical worship practices to Agamaggan involve burnt offerings and sacrifices, or (more rarely) single combat.
Core Rules, 2nd Edition - Geography of Kalimdor / Campaign Types Spoiler: The Barrens The orcs and tauren drove the quilboar tribes out of their lands, and the creatures now lair in the Barrens. Durotar Once the home of the savage quilboar, the Horde arrived on Kalimdor’s shore and, in the aftermath of the Third War, drove the quilboar from the land and established this region as its own. Much of Durotar remains wild, and the orcs continually fend off centaur and quilboar as they attempt to tame the land. Agamaggan The night elves and especially the quilboar honor Agamaggan, the boar who grew massive upon his diet of troll flesh. He was instrumental in the first defeat of the Burning Legion, and fell at the hands of the pit lord Mannoroth. Campaign Types - Diplomacy Some ideas for diplomacy campaigns include arranging for night elves to accept high elven mages seeking to study the ways of “uncorrupted magic”; establishing diplomatic relations between the Forsaken of the Tirisfal Glades and the nearby human villages; and convincing an unaffiliated group (such as the centaur or quilboar) to join the heroes’ cause.	The Quilboar once inhabited both Durotar and Mulgore, but were driven back to the Barrens during and after the Third War. Not all of these regions are cleared, and the Quilboar continue to hinder their attempts to secure the land completely. Agamaggan grew massive primarily with the flesh of trolls, and was significant in defeating the Burning Legion, falling to Mannoroth. It may be viable to convince a Quilboar faction to join an outside cause.

Quest Sources

Quest	Lore	Notes
Durotar
Encroachment	Prior to Orc landfall, Quilboar owned much of Durotar, resisting their expansion. Most of these Quilboar have now been removed, save for some fortified holdouts. Gar'thok admits the Quilboar are intelligent and organised and contemplates whether they're craftier than he gives credit for. It's common practice to burn Quilboar settlements as soon as they're emptied.	Pre-Cataclysm Quest.
Raggaran's Rage	The Quilboar have remained stalwart even after the area was flooded. Raggaran really hates Quilboar.	Cataclysm Quest.
Raggaran's Fury	Seriously, it's not healthy.	Cataclysm Quest.
Call of Fire (3)	Quilboar (at least the Razormane) use a substance called fire tar in their magic as a reagent.	Pre-Cataclysm Quest; shaman class quest.
Mulgore
Rite of Strength	The Bristleback tribe encroach on the Tauren from Brambleblade Ravine; they ambush hunters and steal by dark.	Pre-Cataclysm Quest.
Call of Earth (Mulgore)	The Bristleback shamans use salves in their rituals, which allow them to see spirits.	Pre-Cataclysm Quest; shaman class quest.
The Battleboars	The Bristleback tribe train highly aggressive boars to battle the Tauren and push into their hunting grounds.	Pre-Cataclysm Quest.
Attack on Camp Narache	The Quilboar are capable of drawing up plans and devising extended conflicts.	Pre-Cataclysm Quest.
Break Sharptusk	Sharptusk Thornmantle is the first recorded leader of the Bristleback Quilboar. Sharptusk is considered cunning enough to hunt the Tauren back. The Tauren consider their village 'makeshift'	Pre-Cataclysm Quest.
The First Step (Mulgore)	The Quilboar encroachments were not stopped by the previous Tauren efforts. In fact, they have grown exponentially. The Quilboar now spread across Red Cloud Mesa, disrupted from Brambleblade Ravine by the Cataclysm.	Cataclysm Quest.
Rite of Strength (2)	The Bristleback leave nothing but corpses and barren land as they push forward, and are an imminent threat to Camp Narache. The new land they occupy has been named the Thornsnarl. 'Bristleback' and 'Bristleboar' seem interchangeable and are likely colloquial terms.	Cataclysm Quest.
Our Tribe, Imprisoned	The Bristleback greatly outnumber the larger Tauren and practice pack ambushes against them. The Quilboar take Tauren prisoner, but for indeterminate purpose.	Cataclysm Quest.
Go to Adana	The Quilboar in the Thornsnarl are dangerous enough to need a line held against them; they have also encircled Camp Narache to the south.	Cataclysm Quest.
Rite of Courage	Quilboar can make planned thefts, even in conjunction with other attacks to serve as distractions. Quilboar are capable of organising and operating rifles among themselves.	Cataclysm Quest.
Stop the Thorncallers	Quilboars can seed and grow new brambles in foreign lands and use them for shade and protection. These brambles are hostile to most life, making land around them barren. They are inimical to Mulgore's ecosystem.	Cataclysm Quest.
The Battleboars (2)	The Bristleback continue to tame wild boars against the Tauren, but now armor them.	Cataclysm Quest.
Feed of Evil	The Bristleback have build special pens for their battleboars, which they force-feed flesh through troughs.	Cataclysm Quest.
Rite of Honor	'Squealer' Thornmantle is the second recorded chieftain of the Bristleback. He personally lead the attack on Camp Narache and killed Greatmother Hawkwind, retreating and lurking in a den of thorns to the west.	Cataclysm Quest.
A Sacred Burial	The Bristleback have no qualms about pillaging Tauren burial sites.	Pre-Cataclysm Quest.
Northern Barrens
Warchief's Command: Northern Barrens!	The Quilboar are enchroaching into the Northern Barrens.	Cataclysm Quest.
Preserving the Barrens	The Quilboar are considered to be invading from the Southern Barrens.	Cataclysm Quest.
In Defense of Far Watch	Kargal Battlescar considers all Quilboar to be enemies and nuisances; the Razormane moreso than others. Part of the Razormane tribe have been pushed north by the Cataclysm. The Razormane Quilboar have been regularly attacking and looting supply caravans from Orgrimmar to the Crossroads, as well as attacking stables. The attacks seem to be having a tangible effect on the Crossroads' food and armaments.	Cataclysm Quest.
Through Fire and Flames	Quilboar are capable of what seems like strategic sabotage; burning down stables with the wolves inside.	Cataclysm Quest.
The Far Watch Offensive	The Quilboar are 'running amok' throughout the borderlands between Durotar and the Barrens. Kreenig Snarlsnout is the mastermind behind the attacks on the Horde supply line and Far Watch Post. Quilboar don't mind caves, as both he and the looted supplies are found holed up within one.	Cataclysm Quest.
Plainstrider Menace	Quilboar are capable of using animals as part of their ambushing tactics, scaring flocks of plainstriders into the path of caravans. This seems to damage their carts in of themselves.	Cataclysm Quest.
Supplies for the Crossroads	The Razormane are (perhaps unintentionally) displaced towards the Orcs after the Cataclysm, and grow desperate and bold in their attacks. They are capable of striking at least twice a week, and the Crossroads is becoming desperate for supplies.	Cataclysm Quest.
Crossroads Caravan Pickup	This scenario shows how dangerous the roads have become; a huge ambush takes place against a relatively small convoy of kodo. The Quilboar attempt to leap onto the pack kodo as they attack it. The Crossroads has gone for at least a week at a time without supplies due to Quilboar activity.	Cataclysm Quest.
The Grol'dom Militia	Quilboar can attack rapidly and in massive numbers. Quilboar will occasionally burn buildings even if they can be looted.	Cell Six
Drag it Out of Them	The Razormane attack Horde farms. Quilboar hold their enemies to some standards, particularly perceived cowardice (here, using a net to capture them). Togrik states that the Razormane prior to the Cataclysm weren't directly confrontational, and instead scavenged at the fringe of their territory.	Cataclysm Quest.
By Hook Or By Crook	The high Quilboar aggression at Grom'dom seems uncharacteristic to those who live there. The Razormane north of the Great Divide are controlled by the warlord 'Tortusk'. Quilboar are easily swayed by a strong leader; for example, that raw, stolen meat is better than cooked meat. Quilboar warlords can inspire both great respect and great fear among their warriors, simultaneously. Quilboar are hardy enough to shrug off punches and kicks. However, Quilboar can be ticklish. Who knew? The captured Razormane states to the player: "We're warriors, (name). Many and proud."	Cataclysm Quest.
The Tortusk Takedown	Quilboar are not devoid of opportunism - Tortusk seems to have gathered the Razormane cut off from from their true leaders in the south. However, under his leadership they have become 'little more than brigands' - implying the Razormane were historically easier to deal with. Tortusk has some view of tactics, holding a fortified hill where he has a commanding view of the Horde roads. He even rides a raptor, indicating they have a greater knowledge of domestication than the Horde may be aware of. Despite this, he seems to immediately rush into combat with the player. Togrik believes that, with cool heads, the remaining northern Razormane survivors can be talked to.	Cataclysm Quest.
Grol'dom's Missing Kodo	The Razormane are cattle rustlers; they take kodo from Horde caravans. It's not indicated for what reason, but likely to eat. The fact that the Razormane didn't take the cargo means they lead the kodo away intentionally without looting it, showing organisation.	Cataclysm Quest.
Animal Services	The Quilboar steal - and probably eat - grain.	Cell Six
Lost in Battle	Reinforces views on Quilboar tactics - three (or more) on one attacks are common, with even more streaming into a battle against as little as two enemies.	Pre-Cataclysm Quest
Consumed by Hatred (old)	Mankrik really hates Quilboar. The further south into the Barrens, the more Quilboar there are, naturally.	Pre-Cataclysm Quest
Consumed by Hatred	Mankrik still really hates Quilboar. The Quilboar also burned Mankrik's homestead during the night - it's unclear whether this is before or after the battle at the Tauren camp.	Cataclysm Quest. Mankrik's wife's name is Olgra.
Disrupt the Attacks	Prior to the Cataclysm, the raids on Crossroads-bound caravans were merely an annoyance. The Orcs recognise the brambles as their dens.	Pre-Cataclysm Quest
The Disruption Ends	Without their leader, the Razormane are assumed to flounder and be easier to pick off. Following the Cataclysm, this doesn't seem to have been the case.	Pre-Cataclysm Quest
Forged Steel	Quilboar are capable of avoiding violence, and can spot weaknesses - like blindness - and exploit them. The Quilboar are interested in steel to some degree, having conducted a planned theft just to get at it. They didn't manage - or know how - to do anything with the ingots, however.	Pre-Cataclysm Quest; warrior class quest.
Southern Barrens
Call of Water (2)	The Quilboar continually attack Brine, an Orc shaman; they likely have no respect for foreign practitioners.	Pre-Cataclysm Quest; shaman class quest.
Call of Water (3)	The Quilboar are extremely protective of water; attempting to fill a single waterskin from a small pool triggers them to attack you. Even a small water source is extremely valuable to the Quilboar, and is sacred to them due to its scarcity. It is stated by Brine that they have great feasts when even the slightest rain falls to the Barrens. Brine is sympathetic to the Quilboar; she believes they don't understand all living things are connected and that their greed only perpetuates their suffering. She expresses finally that they could be capable of great things if their clans united.	Pre-Cataclysm Quest; shaman class quest.
Weapons of Choice	The Quilboar are believed to have no skilled blacksmiths. Despite this, they've been seen to create sturdier weapons with unknown techniques. Tatternack Steelforge doubts the 'pathetic Quilboar' could ever attain any skill in smithing. When he gets the examples of Quilboar weapons, he is surprised at how far along they are and warns against underestimating them.	Pre-Cataclysm Quest.
Tribes at War	Both the Razormane and Bristleboar are spiritual - tied to the earth, which in return gives them its power in all things, especially war. There is historical tension - and war - between the two tribes, as Mangletooth sends the player to weaken the Bristlebacks by killing their shamans. Mangletooth seeks for the Razormanes to rule the Barrens alone, destroying other tribes to do so, and has the player do his work to regain their favor. Quilboar do experience suffering and pain, as Mangletooth expresses as much about his tribe. Mangletooth knows of honor and reciprocal relationships, though he was betrayed by his own people, indicating not all of the Razormane may hold those ideas. Mangletooth has a keen grasp of language, greater than most other Quilboar in the Barrens and above the level of low common.	Pre-Cataclysm Quest. Mangletooth is not totally trustworthy.
Blood Shards of Agamaggan	Reinforces the existence of bloodstone; seemingly Agamaggan's blood set into stone and minerals, forming some kind of crystal. They can be mined from copper and tin nodes, indicating they are mixed with those materials (at least in the Barrens) These bloodstone shards are used by the Bristleback (likely all tribes) as totems, which both increase physical power and serve as a totem for shamanic magic. Tapping this magic is not common; Mangletooth refers to it as a secret, and refers to it as 'my power' which was severed from him. Quilboar magic is strongly tied to Agamaggan - perhaps interchangeable.	Pre-Cataclysm Quest.
Spirit of the Wind	The blood shards have tangible power which can be tapped. The shards, or at least the way they're worked, have the power to increase speed (as fast as aspect of the cheetah)	Pre-Cataclysm Quest; part of a group of six quests.
Agamaggan's Strength	The shards can increase physical power; the Razormane's elite infuse themselves with this.	Pre-Cataclysm Quest; part of a group of six quests.
Agamaggan's Agility	The shards are capable of increasing agility as well as dexterity - the Razormane's greatest scouts are unrivaled in their accuracy. It seems that Agamaggan's spirit is tied to the shards; they work with his blessing. The player may be infused with the spirit itself.	Pre-Cataclysm Quest; part of a group of six quests.
Wisdom of Agamaggan	The shards influence cunning and intelligence in those who use them. Shaman and geomancers of all Quilboar tribes call upon this, which seems to make them more effective in and out of battle in their rituals.	Pre-Cataclysm Quest; part of a group of six quests.
Rising Spirit	The Quilboar acknowledge that spirit is important in battle, and the shards can affect willpower in the user. Mangletooth mentions that the Razormane care more for their links to Agamaggan than their own ability; a sign of humility/piety.	Pre-Cataclysm Quest; part of a group of six quests.
Razorhide	This application of the blood shards gives a 'thorns' effect to those who call upon it, probably acting like Agamaggan's coat. Mangletooth talks about a need for protection, saying bones and skin must be tough as well as their quills, but doesn't mention armor.	Pre-Cataclysm Quest; part of a group of six quests.
Betrayal from Within (1)	If Mangletooth is to be trusted, he was betrayed by three other Quilboar (a tracker, warrior and shaman) for control of the Razormane. This would mean Quilboar are capable of dastardly politics and sharing power if it suits them, as well as overthrowing existing leaders. Mangletooth knows who Thork is and states he's got the wrong idea about who's attacking his people.	Pre-Cataclysm Quest.
Betrayal from Within (2)	Upon presenting Lok Orcbane's skull to Thork, he admits he thought the raids were by another Quilboar. Mangletooth has some admiration for the player, as he offers to continue giving them power even after he's done his part.	Pre-Cataclysm Quest
Mangletooth (Alliance)	By the time of the Cataclysm Mangletooth has escaped Taurajo (likely during the attacks) and regained control of the Razormane. The Quilboar are riled up recently, according to Dorn Redearth; he believes Mangletooth's return is the cause, and that he's gathering them. This would be some proof of both his tenacity and leadership ability. Dorn corroborates this, calling him clever for a Quilboar.	Cataclysm Quest; Alliance Quest.
Mangletooth (Horde)	Mankrik still hates the Quilboar He's moved from Grol'dom farm all the way down to Razorfen Kraul, and is now surrounded by tens of corpses of Quilboar. Mangletooth has full control of his shamanic powers now, and is adept in multiple elements - rare for Quilboar.	Cataclysm Quest.
No Bull	The Quilboar are indiscriminate in attacking interlopers - the Alliance suffer hit-and-run attacks by them in the jungle. They may be consciously exploiting the landquaker kodo in order to sneak up on and attack them.	Cataclysm Quest; Alliance Quest.
A Failure to Communicate	There is some desire among the Alliance to ally with the Quilboar; Ambassador Gaines insists he could negotiate one with them. The Quilboar don't warm to this sentiment, and Gaines is found tied between two giant tusks. When saved, Gaines says "Ah, thank you! Suffice it to say... Negotiations did proceed as planned." Corporal Teegan, on the other hand, considers them squealing savages, and objects to the idea of fighting alongside pig-men. When Gaines is saved, he finds a silver lining in that they've learned about their leadership structure via the ambassador.	Cataclysm Quest; Alliance Quest.
Make 'em Squeal	The Quilboar are highly reactionary - almost immediately after Cpl. Teegan made camp they began to raid them. Teegan says they 'seem to thrive in this thorny hell of a jungle', a glimpse into their adaptability. Further, the Bristleback Thornweavers are able to control the jungle itself with twisted branches called 'bramblestaffs'. Teegan wonders whether the Bristleback themselves have made the jungle.	Cataclysm Quest; Alliance Quest.
Trouble From the Ground Up	Hannah Bridgewater, a druid, contradicts Teegan's belief that the Quilboar made the jungle, and that it isn't tribal magic.	Cataclysm Quest; Alliance Quest.
You Flicked a Fine Vine to Leaf Me	The Bristleback are lead by, at least in part, by a 'matriarch' called Three-Tooth, behind the manipulation of the overgrowth. She personally ordered Gaines be 'torn apart and fed to the overgrowth' suggesting she is powerful. Gaines may have been a sacrifice to the overgrowth as part of a shamanic (or even primally druidic) ritual. Three-Tooth has been training crones, possibly to replace her if she died. She's 'torn limb from limb' as the overgrowth is channeled with the stolen bramblestaff. The Quilboar can use the overgrowth as a living weapon; possibly related to Agamaggan's brambles.	Cataclysm Quest; Alliance Quest.
Diplomacy By Another Means	Gaines is now at Forward Command and encourages violence for the Bristleback; he has no qualms with genocide. He stole a 'horn of challenge' during his failed negotiations; he wants to summon and kill the champion of the Bristleback, Sabersnout. It's somewhat possible that this theft was one of the reasons he was taken prisoner in the first place. The existence of a 'Bristleback challenge ring' indicates their way of dealing with conflict is likely similar to Orcs and involves single combat. Sabersnout talks about a boarpocalypse. He also expresses sympathy for a great deal of dead boars at the hands of the player. The Quilboar are seemingly thrown into chaos after Sabersnout's dead.	Cataclysm Quest; Alliance Quest.
Speaking Their Language	The Quilboar attack because they perceive weakness; according to Makaba Flathoof, they only understand strength. Bristleback leaders use horns to challenge eachother for dominance. A possible pejorative Quilboars have for non-quilboar is 'soft-for-face'.	Cataclysm Quest.
Keeping the Dogs at Bay	Quilboar have opportunistically hunted down Tauren refugees fleeing from Taurajo.	Cataclysm Quest.
Bad to Worse	Many of the Taurajo refugees were picked off and captured by the Bristleback for unknown reasons.	Cataclysm Quest.
Firestone Point (Alliance)	The Quilboar have choked off the entire 'south' (the whole zone / south of the battlescar?) The Earthern Ring is the only group standing in their way, and are surrounded by them already.	Cataclysm Quest.
A Growing Threat	The Quilboar from Razorfen Kraul press closer and closer to Firestone Point each day. Dorn Redearth expresses the possibility to 'talk it out with these pigs', but can't risk being killed in his sleep.	Cataclysm Quest.
Blood of the Barrens	Another nod to bloodstone; a blood shard is found held by a dead Quilboar, carved into the shape of a boar. The craftsmanship impresses Mahka, who didn't think they'd be capable of such patience and care. Mahka states that blood shards once were all over the Barrens, are prized by the Quilboar, and are made by Agamaggan's blood.	Cataclysm Quest; Neutral Quest
Echoes of Agamaggan	Mahka thinks the Quilboar are driven by more than crude desire, and seeks polished boar skulls. These skulls are carefully maintained and obviously objects of worship. Mahka, believing followers of Agamaggan - a noble ancient who sacrificed himself - could not be so aggressive. She uses them to summon a vision of Charlga Razorflank, who is revealed to be manipulating the Razorfen. She states that Agamaggan will not rise again without sacrifice; that only when they own all the land will he return.	Cataclysm Quest; Neutral Quest
Feeling Thorny	Mahka believes the Quilboar are far more full of hatred than Mankrik, and far more ruthless.	Cataclysm Quest; Neutral Quest.
Thousand Needles
Lonebrow's Journal	Henrig Lonebrow was a dwarf sent to discover more fossils of an 'ancient god' after one was discovered in Bael Modan. The bone fragment found at Bael Modan is highly likely from Agamaggan, not an old god. Lonebrow spots some 'half pig, half man' creatures while traveling on the Gold Road and hid from them as they passed. He mentions that they leave a foul stench. Lonebrow finds the skull of Agamaggan - it towered many lengths over him and even one of its teeth was larger than him. He assumes it to be the remains of an Old God, but recalls from a lecture that the Night Elves revered a god like this for his 'altruistic nature'. He is captured by Quilboar who he assumed to be thistle boars. He mistakenly thought they were taking him to the remains of Agamaggan. Instead, they head into Razorfen Kraul; it is foul-smelling and thorn-infested. The Quilboar whip prisoners; Lonebrow watches as much happen to a Night Elf who was caught searching for rumors of Agamaggan. He believed the skull to be the place where Agamaggan fell in battle; his body flattened the land and twisted spires of thorns grew from his blood. According to him, Agamaggan was a 'pure god', and the Quilboar and the thorns do not reflect that. At the time of the journal being written, they were preparing for some 'great military action', and Charlga Razorflank was rousing minions. Lonebrow notes that his guards are lazy, and escapes during their 'next hunt', but dies by the Great Lift.	Pre-Cataclysm Quest; Alliance Quest.
Razorfen Kraul
Adventurers Wanted: Razorfen Kraul (Alliance)	The Alliance recognises the Quilboar threat, wanting to stop them before spreading further, likely for Bael Modan's sake.	Cataclysm Quest; Alliance Quest.
Blueleaf Tubers	Razorfen Kraul is the only place one can get 'blueleaf tubers', a delicacy around the world.	Cataclysm Quest; Neutral Quest.
Going, Going, Guano!	The bats within Razorfen Kraul are unique, and their droppings have unique effects. According to the next quest, his intention for it is see what two diametrically opposed substances do to eachother.	Pre-Cataclysm Quest.
Going, Going, Guano!	With the Cataclysm, the role of the guano is expanded; its stench drives Quilboar into a murderous frenzy. Auld Stonespire believes that an antidote can be created, and wishes to save the Quilboar from this effect.	Cataclysm Quest; Neutral Quest.
Willix the Importer	Willix was attempting to take redleaf tubers from Razorfen Kraul and was taken prisoner. It's not sure what the Razorfen planned to do with him, but he'd been prisoner for a long time and wasn't killed.	Cataclysm Questt; Neutral Quest.
Take Them Down!	Charlga Razorflank controls the Razorfen through mysticism, but gains true power from the elders around here. Roogug leads the geomancers, Bonetusk is the pack and scout leader and Ramtusk is the warlord of the Razorfen, respectively. Auld says Agathelos - a giant boar within the Kraul - would have taken many lives in his fury. He may have been unleashed.	Cataclysm Quest; Neutral Quest.
A Vengeful Fate	Auld Stonespire refuses to forgive Charlga Razorflank for the Quilboars' taking of the Southern Barrens, which is holy to them. Charlga Razorflank is mustering an army within the Kraul, and he demands a vengeful fate for her crimes. He also wishes the Quilboar driven from the Kraul entirely, and that they feel the pain of his people.	Pre-Cataclysm Quest; Neutral Quest. Contradictory.
Agamaggan	Auld Stonespire senses the spirit of Agamaggan within the Kraul since Cataclysm - the area comes alive with its presence. Auld mentions that Agamaggan was one of the first and most powerful beings to ever live. He believes that Agamaggan is capable of steering Quilboar towards their noble roots. Agamaggan himself speaks to you - having waited for you to come.	Cataclysm Quest; Neutral Quest.
Agamaggan's Charge	Agamaggan reinforces that the Quilboar are his children and that his blood runs deep in these lands. Charlga has steered his children into darkness and insanity by the Scourge. He asks the player to kill her and open his childrens' eyes, giving then a chance to return to their roots and earn his blessing. Agamaggan waits patiently for the player to complete the task - death may have calmed him.	Cataclysm Quest; Neutral Quest.
The Crone of the Kraul	Falfindel reads Lonebrow's journal and sends the player to kill Charlga, as not even Feralas is safe from the army she musters. He believes treachery is behind the corruption of Agamaggan's resting place.	Pre-Cataclysm Quest; Neutral Quest.
An Unholy Alliance	A scroll from Ambassador Malcin, a Scourge emissary, solicits Charlga's aid - to allow them to freely act in the Razorfen. Likely the first meeting between the Razorfen and the Scourge. He mentions they are willing to share great power with her, and would give her opportunity to take the Barrens and beyond.	Pre-Cataclysm Quest.
An Unholy Alliance (2)	Malcin's presence and scroll confirm discoveries that the Razorfen growg powerful and show signs of plague as part of a deal. Charlga is not undead; Bragor believes this is because she knows that if she accepted, she would be a puppet and never truly rule.	Pre-Cataclysm Quest.
Razorfen Downs
A Host of Evil	Ambassador Malcin was initially believed to be a Forsaken; perhaps intentional. He appears to have the power to grant undeath on his own, granting it to increasingly large ranks of begging Quilboar followers.	Pre-Cataclysm Quest; Neutral Quest.
Looming Threat (Horde)	The Razorfen tribe have allied with the Scourge.	Cataclysm Quest.
Looming Threat (Alliance)	The Alliance fear the undead Quilboar will spread south from the Thousand Needles into Feralas.	Cataclysm Quest; Alliance Quest.
Adventurers Wanted: Razorfen Downs	The Alliance recognise the 'Scourge-Quilboar alliance' and see it as a threat, and send you to speak with 'Koristrasza'	Cataclysm Quest; Alliance Quest.
Cure the Scourge	Koristrasza is, of course, a red dragon - indicating that the Quilboar, or purely the Scourge presence, are worth their direct attention. She believes there to be a possible cure for the Quilboar strain of undeath, which she prepares with tusks of the undead. It's not shown whether the concoction works, but she states that it will prevent 'future headaches'. If it works, it would be a vaccine rather than a way to un-undead the Scourge.	Cataclysm Quest; Neutral Quest.
Scourge of the Downs	A second red dragon, Belnistrasz, is found captured within Razorfen Downs. This in itself is odd, and indicates greater power from Amnennar first anticipated. He had given himself up for dead - or a meal.	Cataclysm Quest.
Extinguishing the Idol	Belnistrasz goes to extinguish a giant idol; the Downs Quilboar use it to cook and eat their prisoners from the Barrens. The fact that a red dragon has trouble putting out the oven indicates it was more than just a simple object.	Cataclysm Quest.
The Coldbringer	Amnennar the Coldbringer is the lich in command of the Razorfen Downs. He has extremely powerful magic according to Koristrasza; his sorcery stops even her from assaulting him. The adventurers attacking him are only capable of doing so after she weakens him so that he can't use his most deadly spells. The undead Quilboar are unable to be saved, but they seem disconnected from the 'hive mind' once he's defeated. Koristrasza believes purging the Downs is the only remaining option.	Cataclysm Quest.
Bring the Light	Archbishop Benedictus labels the Quilboar as simple, but now turned into something far worse by a pact with the Scourge	Pre-Cataclysm Quest; Alliance Quest.
Bring the End	The Forsaken recognise the Scourge threat among the Quilboar; Andrew Brownell sends you to kill Amnennar immediately. Amnennar is an extremely powerful lich - he has a direct link with the Lich King and the consciousness to control each Quilboars' moves individually..	Pre-Cataclysm Quest.

Misc. Sources

Source	Lore
NPCs
Chief Sharptusk Thornmantle	First recorded chieftain of the Mulgore Bristlebacks. A skilled tactician, capable of advanced planning for his kind. Killed by a Tauren adventurer prior to the Cataclysm.
Chief Squealer Thornmantle	Second recorded chieftain of the Mulgore Bristlebacks. Unknown relation, but likely son of Sharptusk. Leads a Bristleback exodus/invasion into Red Cloud Mesa, claiming much land from the Tauren. Killed Greatmother Hawkwind and subequently hid in a lair. Killed post-cataclysm by a Tauren adventurer, his matted, bloody and singed mane taken as proof.
Pokey Thornmantle	Relative of Squealer Thornmantle, unknown role in the tribe. Guards the battleboar pens and wields a fish; seems young or incompetent. Presumably killed by the Tauren adventurer post-cataclysm along with Squealer.
Geolord Mottle	A powerful Geomancer of the Razormane; evidence that Quilboar have powerful earth shamans. Can rupture the earth and send rock spikes up at enemies. Works alongside Captain Flat Tusk; perhaps the true 'leader', being a shaman. Presumably alive in Cataclysm, alongside Captain Flat Tusk.
Captain Flat Tusk	A powerful warrior of the Razormane tribe; seems to command the Durotar warband. Can rupture the earth and send rock spikes up at enemies.
Tortusk	The leader of the Northern Razormane tribe after opportunistically claiming power. He now controls Thorn Hill and conducts constant raids on Horde camps and caravans. Is evidently highly strong of will, has a good sense of tactics and is physically powerful. Intentionally spreads misinformation among his tribe and keep them in fear. The only Quilboar that rides a raptor (who is named Fez). Presumably killed by a Horde adventurer post-cataclysm.
Elder Mystic Razorsnout	The spiritual leader of the Northern Razormane; seems subordinate to Tortusk. Uses fire magic rather than geomancy. Presumably alive in Cataclysm, possibly takes over after Tortusk's demise.
Kreenig Snarlsnout	One of the leaders of the Razormane in the Northern Barrens Relation to Tortusk unknown; was in Thorn Hill before Cataclysm, is now based within a cave below it. Possibly was ousted by the new influx of Razormane, but still friendly with them Pilfers supplies from the Horde and raids caravans. No significant skill or strength. Presumably killed by a Horde adventurer post-cataclysm.
Swinegart Spearhide	A Bristleback likely commanding the warband behind the attacks on Taurajo refugees. Lives at what was once called Agama'gor, now just west of the overgrowth. Is fond of spears. Subordinate to Sabersnout. Presumably alive in Cataclysm.
Geopriest Gukk'rok	Seems to be the spiritual (or just plain) leader of the Agama'gor Bristleback. Likely works alongisde Swinegart Spearhide. The term 'geopriest' brings up questions. Has a strong grasp of earth magic as well as lava. Presumably alive in Cataclysm.
Sabersnout	Champion of the Bristleback; most likely affiliated with (or leads) the Agama'gor Bristleback. Is extremely powerful in combat and is capable of calling boars to his aid. Is presumably killed post-cataclysm after being summoned by the horn of challenge by a Horde/Alliance adventurer.
Three-Tooth	A very powerful crone of the Bristleback east of Agama'gor. Deals deeply in the overgrowth; she can manipulate it and trains disciples to do so. Is particularly wise, if odd. Similar to a thornweaver, has total control over roots and vines. Quote: 'Eekrala gree-kay. By blood and by thorn... New life from clay. Dead earth... reborn.' Killed post-cataclysm when the overgrowth is turned against her by an Alliance adventurer.
Lok Orcbane	One of the three who usurped Mangletooth for control over the Southern Razormane. A warlord that represents the warriors of the tribe; has the most power of the triumvirate. A powerful warrior in his own right. Killed prior to the Cataclysm by the urging of Mangletooth.
Kuz	One of the three who usurped Mangletooth for control over the Southern Razormane. A crone who represents the spiritualists of the tribe; subordinate to Lok. Has a keen grasp of ice and cold. Killed prior to the Cataclysm by the urging of Mangletooth.
Nak	One of the three who usurped Mangletooth for control over the Southern Razormane. Represents the trackers of the tribe; subordinate to Lok. Oddly, has shamanic abilities and can heal, cast lightning and place totems. Killed prior to the Cataclysm by the urging of Mangletooth.
Mangletooth	The leader of the Southern Razormane; was captured between Vanilla and Cataclysm. Despite his attempts to gain the favor of his tribe by sending adventurers to kill their Bristleback enemies, he was betrayed. Perhaps the most cunning Quilboar known besides Charlga, he plotted the deaths of the three usurpers and escaped Taurajo. An extremely powerful shaman with secret knowledge of tapping the power in Agamaggan's blood. Adept at foreign language. Killed post-cataclysm by a Horde/Alliance adventurer.
Hagg Taurenbane	The Razormane Champion in the lands bordering the Razorfen. Lives up to his namesake and is a particularly capable warrior. Likely works alongside Mangletooth now that he has regained his leadership. Presumably alive in Cataclysm.
Overlord Ramtusk	Commands the Death's Head tribe's military within the Razorfen. His rank alone grants him extreme authority among the Razorfen. He is a particularly old Quilboar who has fought centaur, harpies, orcs - even tauren. Unique among Quilboar, he has not been slowed by his years. He is alive in Warlords of Draenor.
Warlord Ramtusk	Has been promoted since Warlords of Draenor to command all of Razorfen's military. Has become attuned with the spirit world since Cataclysm; he has linked spirits with other leaders killed in battle. Still extremely powerful. Presumed to have died in Warlords of Draenor.
Kraulshaper Tukaar	Appears to be a senior or powerful Thornweaver of the Razorfen tribe. Can manipulate the brambles within the Kraul to attack interlopers. Likely a spiritual or community leader of the tribe. Not certain whether alive or dead after Warlords of Draenor.
Hunter Bonetusk	The most powerful Quilboar hunter known to date hails from the Razorfen tribe. A veteran hunter who has countless trophies; has cunning aim and animal insticts to boot. Has an affinity with boars, and can summon a stampede of them similar to a beastmaster. Not certain whether alive or dead after Warlords of Draenor.
Roogug (original)	The leader of the geomancers in the Razorfen tribe. Has a particular affinity with earth, obviously; can summon large elementals. Subordinate to Charlga Razorflank; possibly a close ally, as they share magic types. Carries a vial of phlogiston; perhaps attempting to decipher technology. Is alive in Warlords of Draenor.
Aggem Thorncurse (original)	The greatest shamans of the Quilboar are called prophets of Agamaggan - him being one of those few. He appears able to directly call upon Agamaggan's power, summoning spirit boars and inspiring those around him. Likely revered among the Razorfen tribe - perhaps all tribes, and is a member of the Death's Head. Likely equal to Ramtusk. Dies somewhere between Vanilla and Cataclysm.
Death Speaker Jargba (original)	A very high-ranking member and priest of the Death's Head tribe in the Razorfen. His role is to disseminate propaganda about the resurrection of Agamaggan and to silence those who question them. This role is made easier by his powerful abilities of mind-control, highly rare among Quilboar. He's also a competent warrior. Associated with Aggem Thorncurse and Ramtusk. Killed somewhere between Vanilla and Cataclysm.
Roogug	Roogug finds his true calling in Warlords of Draenor; a master of crystals and divination. The first example of a newly-added sphere of Quilboar lore, Roogug controls crystals to kill foes and view the future. These crystals seem to allow him to unleash all the elements purely through the power of earth and minerals. Likely has some connection with bloodstone and its applications. Definitely allies with Charlga in this iteration, considering his power and closeness to her updated powers. Not certain whether alive or dead after Warlords of Draenor.
Aggem Thorncurse	Died prior to Warlords of Draenor and is now linked to Warlord Ramtusk by a spirit link totem. Seems to have lost his connection with Agamaggan, instead using an ethereal crossbow. Is likely banished during Warlords of Draenor but can be returned again.
Death Speaker Jargba	Died prior to Warlords of Draenor and is now linked to Warlord Ramtusk by a spirit link totem. Can attack with spirit energies, but has otherwise lost his priestly powers between his life and rebirth. Is also likely banished during Warlords of Draenor, but not permanently.
Earthcaller Halmgar	A powerful earth shaman of the Razorfen, but lower than Charlga or Roogug. Has a strong grasp of the powers of earth - can slow enemies with totems and summon earth elementals. Likely dies during Cataclysm, or leaves for an unknown mission / spot.
Charlga Razorflank	The crone of the Kraul. The most powerful Quilboar currently known. Has control over the Razorfen, the Death's Head and tenacious control over the Scourge in the Razorfen Downs. Likely the most powerful geomancer the Quilboar have produced this generation at least, and has mastery over crystals. Can seemingly bind and unleash elements using these crystals, including fire, water and venom. Her exact relationship with the Scourge is shady - she is either complicit in their control of the Downs or fighting against it, though she invited them initially. Manipulates her own tribes using their fervor for Agamaggan, sending them to conquer and sacrifice in his name. Lives up to Warlords of Draenor, but is likely killed during it.
Rojmane	An old Quilboar shaman featured in Brann's stories in Dark Factions. He fights Brann with his own warband until finally asking for parlay. He relays many stories of the Quilboar to the dwarf, which make up much of the knowledge of Quilboar customs. One of the few Quilboar to end a meeting amicably, he smiles and leaves suddenly, heading off to another battle. Unknown status, but probably dead by the time of Cataclysm.
Ragglesnout	A powerful Quilboar in the Razorfen Downs; one of the few living among them. Is a Death's Head priest, wielding powers to dominate minds, cast shadow bolts and heal, oddly. Likely dies during the purging of Razorfen Downs in Cataclysm.
Plaguemaw the Rotting	Lives up to his name; is a putrid undead Quilboar in the Downs. Has abilities that involve his own decomposition - his putrid stench weakens those around him and withers life on touch. Likely burned away during the purging of Razorfen Downs in Cataclysm.
Snokh Blackspine	The only known Quilboar to have left Kalimdor; is a prisoner and a gladiator in Blackrock Depths. An extremely powerful Quilboar with extensive shamanic ability. Possibly the only example of a Quilboar adventurer yet known. Status unknown - likely dead.
Raging Agam'ar	A type of armored boar that lives within Razorfen Kraul. Likely worshipped in some way.
Agam'ar	A type of armored boar that lives within Razorfen Kraul. Likely worshipped in some way.
Rotting Agam'ar	A type of armored boar that lives within Razorfen Kraul. Likely worshipped in some way. This one is clearly undead - the only undead in the Kraul.
Agathelos the Raging	A gigantic, Agamaggan-esque boar within the Kraul. Apparently was meant to be released as a weapon of sheer destructive force. He seems to have no good will towards the Razorfen, who struggle to keep him in his pen with magical shields. It's unknown where he came from or what process caused him to be this way. Dies during Cataclysm.
Items
http://www.wowhead.com/item=5026	Apparently a reagent used by Quilboar shamans in Durotar for calling fire spirits. Potentially a sign that the Quilboar use totem-like objects to work with elements that don't favor them.
http://www.wowhead.com/item=49535	A stolen rifle from Red Cloud Mesa in Mulgore. Evidently, the Quilboar haven't totally got the hang of using firearms.
http://www.wowhead.com/item=49932	A very careful, delicate carving of Agamaggan - complete with vine-like thorns across his back - made of bloodstone. Proof that good craftsmanship is not completely alien to the Quilboar.
http://www.wowhead.com/item=5093	A Quilboar dagger, seemingly made of thorn or wood. Possibly indicates the Quilboar may use druid-like magics to shape weapons naturally.
http://www.wowhead.com/item=5092	A Razormane's wand which has been scorched. The Quilboar use wands. Considering the state, this was likely used to hurl fire.
http://www.wowhead.com/item=5094	A Razormane war shield. Even Quilboar use shields!
http://www.wowhead.com/item=49782	A horn used by the Bristleback to summon rival leaders to single combat. Offers some insight into the Quilboar political system; it is reminiscent of the Mak'gora Orcs practice.
http://www.wowhead.com/item=52046/	A staff created by the Bristleback Three-Tooth and her crones. It is capable of directly and rapidly manipulating the overgrowth in the Barrens - even controlling tendrils to tear people apart. It appears alive, possibly imbued with power from the emerald dream itself, or a strain of shamanism unknown to other races. This implies the Quilboar are intimated with the emerald dream far more than one would assume at a glance. The staff is stolen and used by the player to turn the vines against Three-Tooth - its power is not exclusive to the Quilboar.
http://www.wowhead.com/item=4850	A map detailing an attack on Camp Narache. Shows that the Quilboar - or at least their cunning leaders - are capable of planning complex assaults if needed. As well as the fact that they can draw - at a stretch, maybe write.
http://www.wowhead.com/spell=90509	A scepter wielded by Charlga Razorflank herself. Pilfered during one of the unsuccessful attacks on the Kraul. Otherwise, nothing is known about its purpose.
Objects
Compendium of Fallen Heroes (book) Spoiler: Tartek the Enraged. One of the most powerful abominations the Scourge has ever created. Assembled by lich Amnennar the Coldbringer to assist in setting up a base at Razorfen Downs. Tartek single-handedly felled more than 1,200 quilboar before being overcome. His sacrifice provided the corpses for Amnennar to quickly raise an undead quillboar army of his own, ultimately assembling the first major Scourge outpost on Kalimdor. Some of Tartek's remains were reanimated and used to create Glutton, Amnennar's current lieutenant.	This source indicates that the corruption of Razorfen Downs may not have been entirely invited. It is possible that despite the leading circle's approval of Amnennar, there were rebels that weren't pleased with the idea. The fact that it went through 1,200 of them indicates the sheer scale of Quilboar populations - and their replacement rate. One of the most powerful abominations being sent to the Downs shows how important a foothold in the Barrens was seen as.
Exile of the High Elves (book) Spoiler: As the centuries passed, the night elves' new society grew strong and expanded throughout the budding forest that they came to call Ashenvale. Many of the creatures and species that were abundant before the Great Sundering, such as furbolgs and quilboars, reappeared and flourished in the land.[/align]	Provides a perspective that the Quilboar had existed for an indeterminate length before Agamaggan's death. It also indicates that their populations, along with many races, were stifled after the Sundering - only reappearing centuries afterwards. May be an unreliable narrator in-universe, especially if it were written shortly after (or before) the Third War by isolationist elves. In which case, it is an example that external knowledge of the Quilboar - especially outside of Orcs and Tauren - is highly lacking. The Quilboar being alive before the Great Sundering brings up questions as to their environment, as the Barrens was far more lush. This would explain the Bristleback tribe's connection with the overgrowth unleashed into the Barrens, though.
Cave Paintings - Spirals Spoiler:	The Quilboar have some creative / artistic drive, albeit simple here. The Quilboar really love spirals; almost certainly ties back to the common shape of the thorns they live in. The Quilboar seem to draw with chalk or pigments (probably ochre)
Cave Paintings - Boar Head Spoiler:	An image of a boar made of various individual symbols - seemingly tusks, spirals and possibly teeth. The Quilboar can create more abstract artwork. Could depict Agamaggan (making it pious), the creator (a self-portrait) or just a boar (tribal/shamanic?)
Cave Paintings - Centaur Battle Spoiler:	One of only two depictions of hostility between the Quilboar and the Centaur. Almost certainly proof of historical wars between the races prior to the Orcs' arrival. This shows that the races probably don't generally get along, if not outright dislike eachother. Quilboars bring spears and bows and shields (difficult to make it out, may be a sword) into battle.
Rock Paintings - Harpies Spoiler:	Depicts three harpies presumably in flight. Many possible conclusions - could be by a curious Quilboar or a warning for other tribesmen for harpies. Far higher quality than the previous drawings and a greater attention to detail; surpasses some paintings by the Tauren.
Dungeon Journal (Taken from the battle.net entry combined with wowhead's.)
Razorfen Kraul Spoiler: Ten thousand years ago - during the War of the Ancients, the mighty demigod, Agamaggan, came forth to battle the Burning Legion. Though the colossal boar fell in combat, his actions helped save Azeroth from ruin. Yet over time, in the areas where his blood fell, massive thorn-ridden vines sprouted from the earth. The quilboar - believed to be the mortal offspring of the mighty demigod, came to occupy these regions and hold them sacred. The heart of these thorn-colonies was known as the Razorfen. The great mass of Razorfen Kraul was conquered by the old crone, Charlga Razorflank. Under her rule, the shamanistic quilboar stage attacks on rival tribes as well as Horde villages. Some speculate that Charlga has even been negotiating with agents of the Scourge - aligning her unsuspecting tribe with the ranks of the undead for some insidious purpose. Encounters: Roogug – Quilboar society regards the reading of stones and crystals as the highest form of shamanism. Roogug served the Quilboar people for many years, quietly honing his divinative arts. He now serves the Quilboar as the overseer of all geomancers and has amassed a powerful array of crystals with which to dispose of weaker foes. It is only a matter of time before these mystics overrun the Southern Barrens. Hunter Bonetusk – If a hunter's accomplishments are measured by the trophies they return with, Bonetusk would be regarded as one of the best. His cunning aim and animalistic instincts brought his hunting and tracking abilities to new heights, and only the strong stand a chance to survive against this veteran hunter. Warlord Ramtusk – The commander of the Razorfen military forces, Warlord Ramtusk is a massive aging Quilboar whose thick hide bears the scars of many battles with centaur, harpies, orcs, and even tauren. In his later years, Ramtusk has embraced the company of Quilboar spirit leaders; Aggem Thorncurse and Death Speaker Jargba guide his thoughts from the spirit realm. Groyat, the Blind Hunter – After years of seclusion, a monstrous creature from deep inside the dark grotto emerged. This gargantuan bat continually feeds on the boar once named Agathelos the Raging, whose dark power was once fueled by continual consumption of bat guano. Charlga Razorflank – The leader (or "crone") of the Razorfen tribes is Charlga Razorflank, a quilboar whose experimental and powerful Geomancy practices are second to none. Her meteoric rise to power and the rapidly increasing violence between quilboar tribesmen can only lead to one thing: war.	Charlga works experimental magic - her affinity with crystals may be an example of this. Charlga had a 'meteoric' rise to power, implying she is only a recent leader of the Razorfen. She is also said to have 'conquered' the Kraul, perhaps being the cause for the friction between tribes today. Agathelos is confirmed to have died. Crystal-reading is considered the highest form of shamanism among the Quilboar - assumedly save for connecting with Agamaggan.
Razorfen Downs Spoiler: Crafted from the same mighty vines as Razorfen Kraul, Razorfen Downs is the traditional capital city of the quilboar race. The sprawling, thorn-ridden labyrinth houses a veritable army of loyal quilboar as well as their high priests - the Death's Head tribe. Recently, however, a looming shadow has fallen over the crude den. Agents of the undead Scourge - led by the lich, Amnennar the Coldbringer - have taken control over the quilboar race and turned the maze of thorns into a bastion of undead might. Now, the quilboar fight a desperate battle to reclaim their beloved city before Amnennar spreads his control across the Barrens. Encounters: Mordresh Fire Eye – Through necromantic magic Death Speaker Blackthorn was able to rekindle the flames of Mordresh Fire Eye's soul, returning him to undeath. As a former shaman, Mordresh has exerted his twisted control over the elements. He burns and scorches all those who threaten the Death Speaker's work. Amnennar the Coldbringer – The lich Amnennar was once a force of reckoning within the Scourge, participating in the assault on Mount Hyjal during the Third War. Afterward, the Lich King instructed his servant to remain in Kalimdor and expand the Scourge's influence. This effort was thwarted by heroes of the Horde and Alliance, however. Now the relative peace that has been brought to Razorfen Downs may be threated. Death Speaker Blackthorn hopes to revive this powerful lich and renew the assault on the Barrens. Aarux – The Arachnomancers of the Death's Head cult are particularly proud of their efforts. After many failed attempts they have finally created a suitable guardian for Death Speaker Blackthorn. Aarux is a huge spider whose body bristles with toxin filled pustules that burst and ooze noxious liquids. The Arachnomancers now await the opportune moment to unleash their creation. Mushlump – A recent creation of Death Speaker Blackthorn, Mushlump is a grotesque collection of parts collected from other failed creations. Full of bile, pus, and other noxious humors, Mushlump contaminates the halls leading to Death Speaker Blackthorn. Death Speaker Blackthorn – Death Speaker Blackthorn rose quickly through the ranks of the Death's Head cult after the defeat of Amnennar the Coldbringer. Shortly after usurping control of the cult, Blackthorn began receiving dark whispers. These whispers promised power and riches beyond belief, if he could return Amnennar to life. Compelled by unnatural energies Blackthorn discovered the location of Amnennar's Phylactery and has returned to Razorfen downs to complete the ritual that will return his former master to life once more.	The Razorfen Downs were once the true capital of the Quilboar, before their occupation by the Scourge. Mordresh Fire Eye is the only known Orc (dead or otherwise) who has joined the Quilboar. The Quilboar are said to be resisting the occupation of the Downs by the Scourge - this likely conflicts with Charlga's own machinations. This is likely what the Death's Head's mind-manipulation is used for, but it is possible they can't affect all the Quilboar furious about their lost homes.
Warcraft 3
Orc Mission 1: Landfall Thrall: Those pig creatures are unlike anything I've ever seen before. Grunt: At least they're prettier than the humans. Troll Headhunter: Thanks for saving us, mon. We should hurry. The pig-men say there were other ships nearby!	The relationship between the Quilboar and the early Horde was marred from the start. The Quilboar likely just interpreted the Orcs - not incorrect- as just more interlopers, attacking them and capturing two trolls. Orcs may consider Quilboar more attractive than humans. The Quilboar seemed quick to react to the crashing ships and talk about them, though they may just have been at the right place at the right time.
Warcraft 3 Manual Spoiler: Quillboars are a race of primitive boar-men that have razor sharp spines protruding from their muscular, hunched backs. These resilient, fearless creatures inhabit the central Barrens of Kalimdor in the labyrinthine maze of thorns called Razorfen Downs.	Razorfen Downs was the original capital of the Quilboar. The Quilboars' spines are razor-sharp. Somewhere between games, they lost an L.

On Quilboar Tactics.

Wed, 03 Dec 2014 16:31:23 -0800

A Treatise on the tactics of the Quilboar.
Signed in blood by Kor'kron Overseer Greddirik

They have many names. Many of them are colloquial - Pigman, Boar-man, Razormane, Bristleback - but the one that I have deemed to use is accepted across the Horde rather than just locally - Quilboar. It is telling, at least to myself, that their names are shallow. That we have assigned them such primitive names - devoid of any meaning other than purely visual - is acceptable perhaps to a farmer, who has greater worries, but not ourselves who intend to defend our lands against them, and therefore it is our burden to have overlooked such things. I need not remind ourselves that our subjugation of the Ogre came about after an improved understanding - and shackling - of their minds. And I need remind us that arrogance was their greatest weakness. We are exhibiting such arrogance by ignoring a foe that has, time and time again, proved they can stand against us.

I've warbled on enough. To the meat.

Overview of the Quilboar as a threat to the Horde's security.

Unassuming as they are, the Quilboar are potentially the greatest threat facing the core Horde lands. They consistently inhabit, as far as scattered reports from our riders speak, the entirety of the valleys of Southern Durotar and a select (densely) entrenched few within Mulgore. They similarly live in such conditions in The Barrens, far more equally spread. These places are more permanent - I will get to why - where presumably their culture and society is more easily practiced. As these camps are either burned, demolished or dismantled before we have reached them, we cannot tell anyway. There are more temporary camps throughout all of the above regions, which are certainly not practicing any culture or society that I can identify with. On a grand scale, this provides two problems, which both threaten us - they are extremely defensible and have a constant access to our own supply lines and outposts. Now I explain why.

The Quilboar's ability to strike at the Horde.

This is no laughing matter. Too many of us have laughed at the concept of the Quilboar's violence. Whether through this laughter or through our own expansion, we've turned them into a force capable of striking and leaving with more mobility than we can muster. I will write explicitly from accounts of own own scouts and survivors of their attacks.

The Quilboar do not let us pick fights. The most common of raids follows a pattern that can be exploited, in that they seem to attack in only two scenarios - valleys, their prime terrain, or isolated flatlands. In a valley, their preparations involve scouting not from the tops but closer to the center of the cliffs, where they straddle jutting rocks and paths both natural and shaman-carved throughout the cliffs. This could either be due to rumored poor eyesight among their people, or - more worryingly - a keen understanding of how we'd normally spot our foes' silhouettes atop hills and high points. On top of this, they blend in with both the ochre rock of Durotar and the paler shades elsewhere. We're not sure whether they manage this by discoloring themselves with pigments. At least once, a wind rider has spotted a geomancer among these parties. On the flatlands, they seem to travel - the rider has said in a manner in mimicry of landfall-era Orcish march - to a certain point near their target, regardless of what it is, and then lie down and observe it from various middling points of ground, similarly to how they approach cliffs. The only time this has been observed, it's gone on for some ten minutes. We can assume that the fact that we haven't recorded this indicates their continuous success. In either case, they seem to bring extremely light supplies, their largest equipment being bags to fill with scavenged goods - some would be easier classified as naked rather than equipped soldiers. A popular but unproven theory from many supply wagons is that they will attack tired foes - this involves assaulting camps at either dusk or early morning and assaulting supply wagons at the height of their day's trek, which they seem to be able to discern accurately.

The Quilboar also do not let us fight on equal terms. In either situation - valley or plain - the freneticism has been called horrifying by survivors. They creep to their prey - as derogatory and demeaning a term may be towards our brethren, that is what they all but become - as far as until they're spotted or being sneaky no longer is practical, at which point mere anarchy is loosed. A vague pattern can be found here from the testimonies of those that lived. If there are geomancers, they make themselves known by wielding many types of undocumented shamanic methods - of two powerful examples, one involved the curling of a thorned vine around a wagon-driver, ripping him into three pieces; the other some kind of barbed projectile large enough to shred leather, judging by the silent evidence of our peoples' corpses. This seems to initiate their combat, since afterwards they begin to scream, and wail, and yelp - all of which I have experienced, and does not end until all of their foes or themselves are dead. There is an immediate volley following the weaving of magick, which has no identifiable pattern - it ranges from their own bows, made of gnarled wood or woven from some kind of pliable material that dies upon our handling of it; pilfered weapons of the Horde, including rifles and crossbows; cannons of varying size, generally no larger than an individual of their own race; rarely, javelins and slings which pelt objects from rocks to barbed things of their own design. Finally, their warriors descend upon our decidedly weakened own.

The ensuing fray is of particular interest. The Quilboar shun explicit formation tactics as Orcs do, but they will bunch together dishonorably - single combat is not alien to them, but they will fall upon foes with a difference as many as five of theirs to one of ours, seemingly to ensure a kill at any cost. This preoccupation with slaughter rather than honorable combat is echoed constantly. Tactics seen at least once - some more than once - include fleeing back a step after kicking a foe to the ground, so as to give the nearby ranger a mortal shot at his fallen body; spitting concoctions stored in their own mouths into the eyes of the enemy, blinding them through unknown means; deliberately distracting a foe so that another may drop on them from above or impale from the sides or back; and the use of primitive explosives throughout the densest groups of our warriors, immediately impaling those knocked to the ground. Quilboar have some degree of understanding - and dissemination - of Orcish methods of doing battle. Many keep to our warriors' right sides and, by way of grouping, force them to continually reorient themselves - an undeniable show that they know how we train. Their equipment is a mix of metal - hand-forged or scavenged - in the forms of axes and spears as well as wood, somehow magically carved. In some ways, the Quilboar's refusal to lose a battle far outstrips our own in how abominable it truly is.

A Quilboar also refuses to flee. Except for the rarest of occurrences, once a Quilboar has chosen its combat it will die there. One Quilboar has stood against more than thirty warriors, ran at them, and was immediately cut down. Our society is far more bogged down by simulacrums of combat than theirs, which is emphasised by such behavior. Many Orcs who speak of preparedness for death in battle balk, especially since the lifting of the blood haze. Quilboar vastly do not.

The most rare of scattered reports indicate that after a victory, they will leave and scavenge all they can that will fit among themselves. It can be assumed they celebrate in their own camps, far from the site of battle, where they cannot be heard.

I will consider what I've written here and continue shortly.

The Fall of Quel'thalas

Mon, 06 Oct 2014 11:05:08 -0700

So, yeah I have been looking for lore on the attack on Quel'thalas during the third war. I have read the book in the WoW Game, looked at the blood elf history as well as Silvermoon's history on WoWWiki.

Here are some parts I'm stuck on.. Someone told me that the Scourge reached Silvermoon with out it's defenses knowing, as the Scourge apparently killed the runners during the WC3 Campaign. Is this the case, or did people have a warning of the Scourge attack when they started attacking the Southern regions?

Secondly..
"Most of what was left of Quel'Thalas was burned down by the high elves in an effort to give the Scourge a psychological victory and leave the few high elves left who were making their last stand on Sunstrider Isle."
WoWWiki

And then..
"... in the Third War the death knight Arthas led the Scourge into the city, attacking it on his quest to reach the Sunwell. The High Elven King and the Convocation were slain and the majority of the population killed. Scourge forces held the city for a time, but abandoned it after the depletion of its resources.

Though the city was attacked by the Scourge, the undead left the buildings mainly intact. For a time the city was a ghost town empty except for dead plants, the occasional body sprawled across the cobblestones and mournful elven spirits. The only visitors to the city were treasure hunters in search of any valuable artifacts that the elves left behind before they deserted the city, but the ghosts of Silvermoon's past inhabitants made stealing difficult."
WoWWiki

Kinda confusing..

Squirrel's Vrykul Emporium of Fanon!

Mon, 14 Jul 2014 21:53:07 -0700

Welcome to my fandom emporium! Of course, it's all fan-dom, and so don't go around screeching in-game about it being true 'n' all. People may differ in their beliefs, which is perfectly acceptable. This is just kind of done as something I enjoy, connecting the dots sort of activity. Most of my fanon comes from the Vrykul, which is a race I've found endlessly interesting, especially due to my own having one.

Speaking about the Vrykul. One thing I reference on my Vrykul a lot, and feel is definitely an interesting piece, is their religion. After all, their worshipping Gods is referenced many times by the Vrykul, especially in this quest, where it says the following;

Quote: King Ymiron yells: The gods have abandoned us!
The crowd gasps in horror.
King Ymiron yells: Even now, in our darkest hour, they mock us!
King Ymiron yells: Where are the titans in our time of greatest need? Our women birth aberrations - disfigured runts unable to even stand on their own! Weak and ugly... Useless...
King Ymiron yells: Ymiron has long toiled. Long have I sat upon my throne and thought hard of our plight. There is only one answer... one reason...
King Ymiron yells: For who but the titans themselves could bestow such a curse? What could have such power?
King Ymiron yells: And the answer is nothing... For it is the titans that have cursed us!
The crowd clamours.
King Ymiron yells: On this day all Vrykul will shed their old beliefs! We denounce our old gods! All Vrykul will pledge their allegiance to Ymiron! Ymiron will protect our noble race!

In this quote, it first says they worship gods, who they then call the titans. Furthermore, it drives the nail in the coffin by saying 'old beliefs' in the last bit there. So, it's pretty obvious that the Vrykul once worshipped the Titans as Gods, and did for a long time before the Curse of Flesh. So, that was easy. However, then I came to thinking about the watchers. Thorim, Loken, Mimiron, Freya, Hodir and Tyr.

Now, they're known as very real by the Vrykul, as can be evidenced by the Hyldsmeet, a competition held by the Hyldnir to have the winner rule by Thorim's side. And it's obvious that the Hyldnir are very attached to the Gods, as they've waged a war for thousands of years for one of them. So, that led me to this thought; the Watchers were left behind as representations of the Titan Pantheon, on top of Watchers of Ulduar.

Now, here's kinda where I diverge from all the citations. We don't really know all too much about the Vrykul, and so I can't keep bringing up quotes 'n' all. But, basically, I noticed that there were six Titans on the Pantheon, and six Watchers left behind. So, there was one for one. Once you looked at them, some of the similarities were incredibly easy to see. Now, of course, this didn't mean that they were only attached to the sole Titans. After all, Loken is known as the Leader (typically Aman'thul's job), despite being sent by Norgannon. So, they're not carbon copies, but it's easy to see who they're from.

Aman'thul, the Highfather - Tyr. Aman'thul is perhaps most well-known for being the guy who gave Nozdormu his power over time. This interest in time can be seen in lesser form in Tyr's Disc, something that grants Kalecgos visions of prehistoric Azeroth in the novel Dawn of the Aspects. So, obviously, they're both attached to time. On top of this, however, is an interesting tid-bit from Aman'thul's page.

http://wowpedia.org/Aman%27thul Wrote:police the ever-spinning pathways of fate and destiny

Now, this is something that Tyr is very interested in -- destiny and fate. He's by far the most involved in the mortal affairs of Azeroth of all the Titans, and kind of messes with both destiny and fate in his own way. It's implied by him that he is behind the first Dragons, and is one of the first to befriend who would later become the five aspects. Through this alone, it's evident that he's had a hand in tampering with this, another thing that combines him with Aman'thul.

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Eonar, the Lifebinder - Freya. This is a lot more simple. Both are the only females, and both are heavily intertwined with nature. In fact, it's basically self-explanatory. If you want a bigger explanation. I can go with it, but I feel like it's unnecessary, personally.

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Norgannon, the Dreamweaver - Loken. This doesn't really have so much, as we don't know much about Loken. However, his temple is known as the Temple of Wisdom, and he does seem a fair bit smarter/cleverer than the other Watchers. After all, he did manage to outsmart at least four of the five other Watchers in some regard. Now, here's a bit of fanon not supported by anything, but I believe that Loken is who gave the Vrykul their runic magic. If this is true, then that means that he had some hidden wisdom not given to Malygos, as 'even the most experienced wizards' find runic magic unfamiliar. I'm not saying that the experienced wizards are on the same level as Malygos, but I think they would have at least a clue of something being arcane based.

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Golganneth, the Thunderer - Thorim. Thorim's called the Stormlord multiple times, and Golganneth is known to be 'the Lord of the Skies and roaring oceans'. Another hint can be found in Golganneth's RPG section, which states that he 'loves flying and swimming creatures above all else.' The thing regarding this is that Thorim has a giant proto-drake he rides named Veranus, and is the one who introduced Vrykul to riding proto-drakes. Obviously, there's some connection between the one who loves flying creatures and the one who rides flying creatures.

It's also known that Golganneth has power over the seas. Perhaps this means that Thorim has some similar degree of control, which could then lead to some interesting theories regarding Thorim and the Kvaldir.

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Khaz'goroth, the Shaper - Mimiron This one, there's not too much on, as we don't have much on either character. However, both are known primarily as builders. Khaz'goroth is a mighty smith and the maker of mountains and Dwarves, while Mimiron has done things like make an entire race. I would also like to point out how close the Gnomes and Dwarves are, with predecessor-Gnomes being made by the latter and predecessor-Dwarves the former.

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Aggramar, the Avenger - Hodir. I will openly admit that this is the weakest of the bunch. There's not really much of anything on either of them, and so I more paired them up based on the fact that neither had left anything behind. However, out of this pairing, came an inkling of an idea. What if Hodir's power with ice is meant as a counter to the Burning Legion's... well, burning? Maybe Hodir was left to guard the world against the Legion, only to have been taken out by Loken before the world needed him most (the War of the Ancients).

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Anyways, I hope you enjoyed reading all that. I do plan to do some more posts in the future, talking about how the Aspects, Watchers and other Titanic creations left all over Azeroth correlate, as well as how I believe Vrykul society worked, and a myriad of other topics. If you have any critiques or things you'd like to see me add on to or go over, then please make a post and I'll do my best. Have a nice day!

Oh, yea, honorary mention to c0r for her help with all this, if not just straight up coming up with most of it.

Shaman Ghost Wolf form- WTF

Mon, 28 Apr 2014 00:51:11 -0700

seriously. Orcs, trolls and tauren I can get and all, what with their love of wolves and WC 3 stuffs, but goblins? Draenei?

I've seen some decent fanon on it, that shaman "switch places with a spirit guide" rather than truly transform, but as far as all tangible evidence goes, with rockbiter buffs and one's classification becoming "beast," everything points to a transformation.
So, is it related to Goldrinn/Lo'Gosh? Its nature magic; how does it differ from druid transformation? If it IS related to Goldrinn, why can shaman handle mimicing the worg form without losing themselves to savagery as druids do?

Why is the ghost wolf form yellow/brown if Goldrinn is white?

If Goblins are businessmen shaman rather than wisemen, typically speaking, then how do they get such a power?

And why would Draenei shaman turn into ghost wolves? Is it ultimately a placeholder, like Druid travel form?

How do you RP this caveat of the class?

Blizzard Lore Posts - Forums/Twitter/Reddit

Fri, 28 Mar 2014 09:31:02 -0700

So this is where I'm gonna be posting a list of all the interesting things that I find and have found while I'm going through the official Blizzard Forum GM Posts, and Twitter feed (@Loreology as well as a couple other 'Historians'' feeds, as they're so called). There's so cool stuff that really adds a lot to the lore. People ask the Devs these questions, and get answers straight from them! Clears up a lot of lore, but also brings up a lot of questions.

"It is said that in the beginning there was Light and there was Void and in a time long ago, the two collided in the abyss of the Great Dark. As a result, infinite worlds spiraled out into the newly forming cosmos."
Warcraft Magazine, Issue 5

"The Draenei you know are corrupted through their portal travels..."
Date 26 September 2005 Wow Forums by Caydiem

“The souls of the undead (Forsaken, PC death knights, ghouls, etc.) are imperfectly attached to their bodies; the dark magic that sustains them is a buffer that prevents their souls from properly joining with their bodies. This is why undead feel only faint sensations of pain or discomfort from most physical stimuli, and why the Light is so painful to their existence. The primary exception to this rule are liches, as liches bind their souls to a phylactery and then use the phylactery to generate a physical form; this process is why lich bodies look nothing like their mortal bodies, and also why you have to destroy a lich’s phylactery to truly kill them.”
Date: 09 February 2012 WoW Forums post by Nyorloth

""@MickyNeilson so what about Elunites, or are they just the light as well? Is that another lost thematic"
"Historian input - the power would come from Elune."
(This to me pretty much disproves the Elune-is-a-Naaru-theory)

"@MickyNeilson Rise of the Horde and the WoW Comic said that the Draenei arrived to Draenor 200 years before W1. That's still accurated?"
"Yep, Historians confirmed."
(Server timeline is wrong, says it's 960 years ago)

"@MickyNeilson What's the deal with goblin priests? Do they believe in the Light?"
"They use willpower to wield the Light, driven by greed."
(This sounds a LOT like the way the Forsaken use the Shadow. And considering what we heard earlier, with the universe being formed by Shadow and Light coming together... Has some interesting implications.)

"@Loreology This part of the Wc3 manual did I mean: "...common ancestry with gryphons and dragons..." Still true?"
"AFAIK, there hasn't been any ruling that contradicts this. I believe it's safe to assume that this lore still holds true."

"@Loreology Are Blood Knights and Sunwalkers true Paladins or is it just for gameplay purposes? They seem different"
"They have the same in-game abilities for gameplay sake. IIRC, we intentionally avoid referring to Sunwalkers as "paladins". "

"Are demons the source of Fel magic?"

"They contain fel magic, but they aren't "the" source. The nature of this magic is created from destroying something else. "
(WHAT, BLIZZARD? TELL US WHAT's BEING DESTROYED)

[3/23/14, 1:05:33 AM] Beltharean: "Got a question about Illidan if you can. When he was "Defeated" in Black Temple is he dead or heading to the nether??"
[3/23/14, 1:05:46 AM] Beltharean: "@ChristMetzen has understood that folks would like to see this villain once again... "
(Blizzard... Plz... Don't do it...)

"Alteraci" "Lordaeronian" "Stromic" Dalaranian" "Stormwindian"
- Official way to pronounce the nationalities- I don't care, because Stromic and Alteraci sound ridiculous.

"Ama Noral'arkhana era endal dracon" Officially translated from Thalassian as "Saved by magic and by the breath of the dragon"

"Arcane magic is canonically white and/ore violet in the lore"

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Now, the most interesting thing that I found for me personally, is the relationship between all the classes and the Void.

After the First War, Bishop Seline investigated the dark magic used by the orc necrolytes to raise their deads. Her studies became obsessed as she tried to discover why such energy existed at all and why she began to see the ebb and flow of it in the world around her. She began preaching about the necessity of balance between dark and light, but after her death, her books were locked away in the Kirin Tor's vaults in Dalaran.

Her teachings, rediscovered by Forsaken priests during the capture of the Undercity, served as the theological base for the Cult of Forgotten Shadow. This cult uses the term Shadow to refer to reality and believes that there must be balance between the wielders of holy and dark energies; because of that, they mostly manipulate the dark energies "discovered" by Natalie Seline.
World of Warcraft the Magazine, Issue 4

We also know that:

@Loreology @johnpatrickz Real answer: Void is different from nether. We consider voidwalkers "demons" for gameplay but different origins!

It's said that they come from the Void, which is the same source of magic that Priests use for Shadow Magic, as well as Necromancers for their shadowy spells- As well as to gain access to the souls of the dead. All three classes are drawing on the Shadow Plane in some way or another. My personal interpretation of that is the -way- a person access the Void determines how they use it. Priests use it in the most 'pure' way so they have the most control. Necromancers use the arcane, and the arcane ends up twisting or corrupting it into a form where they can't have as much control over it. Warlocks have Fel taint in their spells which distorts it even further, which is why they have the least control over their shadow spells.

If anyone else knows any official Lore Posts with information that doesn't appear in-game, feel free to post them, or to discuss any of the lore (or my opinions on it) above.

Vrykul, Val'kyr and Light Use

Sat, 22 Mar 2014 17:05:31 -0700

Hello, CotH community! I seek your input. A topic came up in RP today about Vrykul using Light. My thoughts are, as a culture and historically, this does not make sense. I had a discussion with Krilari about it, and his thoughts are that it does make sense (and that was terrible grammar on my part).

What do you guys think? I honestly want to know.

Note, I hope this doesn't turn into a "sides" thing. Keep it nice! I'm also choosing not to post on the debate further myself.

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Human Witch Doctors?

Sat, 22 Mar 2014 05:59:33 -0700

Hey guys!

I was leveling in Stranglethorn vale, and I found a cave with a bunch of Kurzen NPCs. I've seen some enemies called Kurzen Witch Doctors and Kurzen Shadow Hunters.
What are they? Could some one actually RP as a human Witch doctor or Shadow hunter? (I'm not planning to play one, just popped into my mind).

Warcraft Snacks - a question of sustenance

Fri, 07 Mar 2014 07:09:44 -0800

I like food. No, I love food. Nae, like really, really love food. Like a meme-kitten loves yarn and holes in the ceiling. So much in fact that I got an (unofficial) award for my interest in food - it's called a potbelly! But back to the serious stuff...

I find food and the culture that goes into it and surrounds it very interesting and I try my best to try to eat and even cook edibles from any time and any place. Recently I've found much reading on Tumblr. about food in fiction and has sparked some old thoughts of mine. I feel that culinary traditions really adds several levels of depth to any kind of fiction. Take the carnivore wood elves of Elder Scrolls, the because of religion abstain vegetable sources for food and has lead to the brewing of spirits on milk, blood and even juices from meats. AMAZING!

I've gathered and come up with quite a few recipes in my days of Warcraft roleplay, most when running a travelling tavern on a boat, but I'm curious on where other people stand on the topic of sustenance. What does the current lore tell about the races and areas culinary traditions and where can one find that lore? What assumptions are made about the various races and their preferences, possibly tied to stereotypes or parallels drawn to real life? Good that you are eager to answer but let's make this interesting by turning it into a little challenge.

Rules

Come up with a dish or drink for the appointed Area/Culture/Race and your reasoning behind it. Be it similarities with food sold by vendors of that race or readily available in the area or whatever inspired you! Don't be intimidated by complex dishes because your suggestion can be as simple as cheese on toast... or just the toast. (If you have a lore basis, please share the source.)
If you cannot think of a dish or drink for the current theme and it feels currently dried up, feel free to decide a new Area/Culture/Race for us to "cook & brew".
(Feel free to discuss and comment previous mentions without taking part of the challenge, but it's more fun if most people try.)

I'll start this off...
Theme - Nagrand

Dry-aged shoulder of elekk in old milk
A big cut of elekk meat that has been left out in the sun for two-three weeks to dry and have been sheltered from rain. This makes it preserve much longer and is perfect to bring during travels because a few more days under the sun will only make it more tender. When the time has come to prepare it the outer layer is cut off and the shoulder is then left to rest in sour milk for as long as possible. The need for sour milk is also makes the dish great for travels since dairy products rarely stay fresh for long, but remains edible if cared to properly. Both the dry-aging and sour milk helps to tenderize the meat and all ingredients needed are readily available in Nagrand. Then shriveled, outer layer is cut off and the tenderized meat is slivered and briefly brazed on a hot surface. It's served with the milk it has rested in and a mash of mild roots to soften the sharp and heavy taste of the elekk.

(Based upon texts about the taste of elephant meat, saying it is a very dark meat with a strong taste that is reminiscent of elk and suitable for the starving. And a combination of two ways of tenderizing meat in general.)

Imps and Rainbows

Tue, 04 Mar 2014 16:00:21 -0800

So, there's a quest ( Open Their Eyes ) that states that all imps are afraid of rainbows. It also states such on their WoWPedia page.

I was discussing this with another player, and they brought up the point that perhaps not all imps are afraid of rainbows, because they had a personal distaste for "omnipotent" NPCs, and perhaps this might lead to an OP imbalance wherein a person shines a flashlight at any imp, and they run screaming.

Is there an official server stance on this? Perhaps low-level imps, ala warlock minions are all terrified, but more powerful ones aren't?

Opinions on Pre-Sundering Azeroth?

Fri, 07 Feb 2014 15:11:49 -0800

I haven't been on the server for a while so my lore's a bit rusty, but I don't think anyone had been able to find a solid answer for this one anyway; How Azeroth, pre-sundering was shaped. Were the continents split and blown away from each other with the original looking like this:

Spoiler:

Or did the continents as they currently are never move, but were connected by a landmass that fell into the sea like so:

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I'd say there are good arguments for both sides, really, but I'd argue that Kalimdor was previously one large continent with its shores set where the shores currently are on Kalimdor on the Eastern Kingdom (On the west and east sides, respectively) with The Great Sea covered in land. A lot can be explained away with magic, but I don't think an explosion, even by the Well of Eternity could really explain billions of years of plate tectonics shifting chunks of the continent hundreds of miles away.

More importantly though, if the explosion -had- blown everything 'outward' then one would assume that anything close by would have been pushed away too. The ruins of Suramar on the Broken Isles are still in such close proximity to the Maelstrom however, where we know the Well of Eternity originally was, that it would be rather strange for such massive chunks of land as Kalimdor, the Eastern Kingdoms, and Northrend to move, but not Suramar itself.

We know from flavor text, the RPG Books (for what they're worth), and Knaak's Trilogy (I'd argue that's worth even less), that earthquakes were the main source of damage across the planet with the destruction of the Well of Eternity. That being said, I'd argue it makes more sense for a huge swath of land to have sunk and turned into the Great Sea rather than the Well creating fault lines that moved so drastically that they created three separate continents. A massive sink hole being formed would explain how the ruins of Suramar and other various ruins of Kal'dorei and Troll origin exist under the ocean in a recognizable state.

Any who, I just wanted to see what the rest of you guys thought. Most people I've talked to about it view Ancient Kalimdor as it's pictured in the first pictures, but I haven't had all too many discussions about it honestly.

Goblins and Death Knights

Sat, 01 Feb 2014 00:19:21 -0800

From what I read about Death Knights, Worgen Death Knights can only be slaves of Arugal or something that's similar to that. Would Goblin Death Knights have a said restriction too, or would it not matter? I'm quite sure there are some Goblins from the workshops or the zeppelins who could possibly be turned into Death Knights.

What do you think?

Question about Blackwater Cove?

Tue, 28 Jan 2014 02:35:46 -0800

Right, so I am tinkering with a Human idea, but some stuff on lore about pre-Booty Bay isn't necessarily clear to me.

It states in Wowpeadia that in order to try opening trade routes Stormwind sent Humans into Stranglethorn and they made a settlement called Blackwater Cove. Then some Trolls came and killed/drove off the Humans, and then later the Goblins came in to drive the Trolls away and then formed Booty Bay. I have never played the WC games, so I don't know exactly -when- this happened. All I know is that Booty Bay was there since Vanilla WoW.

So...when in our timeline did Blackwater Cove get set up and overrun by Trolls?