Several comments to multiple people.
Vrahn Wrote:The problem with what is being asked is that it's very hard to have prolonged RP between the Horde and the Alliance simply because it doesn't make much sense for there to be any.
That's really just an opinion statement.
There's nothing inherently wrong with friendly RP between Horde and Alliance. It becomes a problem when it's the norm to the point where the aggressive characters are the ones ostracized. It needs to be handled well, but it *can* be done well.
Quote:Thus most encounters with the Horde will be combat encounters, most of which someone will die if it is being RPed without a bit of meta-gaming to protect both combatents from what would happen.
I don't think protecting characters from death is metagaming so much as it is common courtesy. Granted, a common courtesy that players about the server tend to lack. The character warning system was never put into play to cause mass deaths or discourage conflict, that came as a result of players abusing it.
I think that deserves a topic of its own, though, so someone feel free to start it.
Quote:The other option for inter-faction RP is neutral territories which can result in some interesting encounters and good tension when RPed properly, unfortunately most of these neutral zones only cater to a specific group of RPers, and there are other territories which captivate the interest of other players, which is perfectly acceptable as not everyone likes the same things.
I just have to wonder why this is the case.
There are a ton of RP opportunities in the goblin towns. If you like large cities, there are just as many in Shattrath and Dalaran. Considering how important they are in the lore, there's little reason why the usual type of thing that happens in Stormwind cannot happen there.
As for the Sin'sholai paragraph, I can't talk more about that beyond what I've already said...except that I didn't agree with the split, and how relations are between themselves and the Horde was never intended by Mikain.
Hinbane Wrote:I wont argue anything, other than that it's too bad that this challenge is being issued without an inkling of what is truly going on in Stormwind.
I find this offensive, primarily because it simply isn't true. I know a lot more than you give me credit for. I've RPed in Stormwind in the past, and since my return I've seen a bit of what's going on there now.
Quote:I feel the cure lies with action from the Hordies not the Alliance.
I cannot put to words adequately how much I believe this is simply not true. However, I'll explain it as best I can.
Hordies simply don't have the power right now to generate the RP that they need. That's simply fact. There's so very few of them around except for the random bursts of Horde RP, and the best many can do is just spam LFG looking for RP, waiting until someone takes pity on them to hop on over.
Events? That won't change a thing, and I will tell you why. For one, there are too few people Horde-side right now to actually run these things. For two, and this is important, *Horde events are being overshadowed by Alliance ones.* It doesn't matter if someone starts something in Stonetalon. You know why? Because they'll be too busy going to the Alliance event in Ashenvale. People might roll throw-away characters to take part in the sparce Horde events, but they'll keep going back to their Alliance characters who are getting far more events and player support. The players then turn around and complain that, of all things, there needs to be more Night Elf and Draenei RP, *when they're not the ones that need help.*
Alliance right now isn't just not helping at all, they're *hurting* Horde-side RP. This is not a problem that can simply be fixed by the few Horde RPers that remain, it's something much of the community will need to work on, collectively.
Monolith Wrote:People would be complaining all the same if all the RP happened in Orgrimmar.
Except that Horde RP in Ratchet and Booty Bay, not Orgrimmar. The cruel irony of this situation is that, if this were reversed...for example, Horde primarily RPing in Org and Alliance primarily RPing in Booty Bay, then this would not be a problem.
Anski Wrote:Lots of words.
I'm not going to pick this apart and will just say I disagree with a lot of what was said here, but I'm going to say one thing, and this might actually shock or offend the more RP elitists out there...
Sometimes, you just need to accept certain breaks of character or breaks of realism in order to facilitate RP. Your character lives in Stormwind? So what? She doesn't have reason to be in a particular area? Create one, it's not that hard.
You, and others really, seem to be turning this around and saying that I want people to all just roll Horde characters, or I don't want people playing in Stormwind at all. I honestly don't care if people play Alliance, that's not the point here. People will play the characters they want to play. *That is, in fact, the reason I posted this.* If someone wants to play their Horde character, *then they should have just as much opportunity and right to RP that character as the Alliance player over there does.* It is therefore up to the players to work together to make that happen. Having all the Alliance sit in Stormwind isn't working together.