(08-01-2011, 05:23 PM)Grakor456 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-01-2011, 04:29 PM)Uthaniel Wrote: [ -> ]In Beltharean's case, for example, he was apparently disrespectful multiple times.
I don't doubt it happen - He said something and someone got offended. That is in fact disrespect, and I believe just about anyone is capable of doing it.
At the same time, Beltharean was a friend that I - at least thought I - knew. Some people even better than me. Most of us, I believe, share a similar opinion that he wouldn't be unnecessarily rude (as an addendum, I have to say his reaction to the last events that lead to his banishment came as a surprise, at least to me.)
It'd be good to know what happened. At least the instances when the player broke the rules and a vague description, though I realize this is asking too much - After all, some have tens and tens of warning pages, as said before.
It's just my opinion, barely even a suggestion. Take it for what it is.
To be fair to Beltharean, most of his misdeeds were far in the past. In fact, the final warning itself was issued over a year ago (though such things never completely disappear.)
My interpretation, and what enlightenment I could gain from the commentary of others, of the events that transpired was that Beltharean went into the thread looking for a fight and to intentionally provoke a banning, likely because he believed himself to be proving a point. What problem he had with me personally? I can't say. I had next to no contact with the man prior to this point, and I was confused by it as much as anyone else was.
That's pretty much the limit of what I can offer for the moment. Perhaps others find it enlightening.
If it was over an year ago, I hadn't even met him then - Somewhat answers a few doubts of mine.
Well, truth be told, I specified my opinion to be what it is because I see it as the "ideal" scenario. Frankly, I think there's going to be issues either should the full information be released, should partial information be released or no information be released at all. In the end, by not releasing anything, you're risking coming off as the bad guys, which is a noble gesture.
Nonetheless, it also seems to lead to the annoying scenario where particularly unpleasant situations arise and force the banishment to be explained.
I guess it's a system that works as it is; Let the players have the information if they come ask themselves, let that information be mentioned in private, and in general be kept in private. It'd let us have access to information and, perhaps, find "closure", while not necessarily exposing anyone (That is, assuming anyone does their part. If someone decides to expose someone with that information, the flawed is the person, not the whole).
...That one I guess, is more of a suggestion. Something to consider, maybe. Maybe not.
Nonetheless, I hope someone finds a way to help this situation in a manner that satisfies most, if not all. As I said before, I only agree
somewhat with the release of information. But I also feel this entire thing has to change.
I mean, as it is, it feels like a banishment is some sort of death sentence. It really does. Every time someone gets banned, it's like they were some sort of political opponent murdered in a dictatorship, and the way people react, this might as well have been the case.
Maybe I'm wrong. I probably am wrong, but I honestly we all should remember that in the end, everything boils down to a discussion about a
game. Beltharean was banned because of a
game, and he overreacted over one. Things should honestly be way more light-hearted than they are right now.
Games are meant to be enjoyed. It starts being work when it's a chore.
If this is all a game, why can't we all just try to enjoy it instead of jumping at each other's throats over it?
And since I cannot pretend to be something I am not, I am at my heart, Uthaniel. Which means this post seriously can't be entirely serious.
So here's a video.
Of puppies.
And kittens.
And it's about friendship!
And it's silly.
Enjoy!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYLsyNBnE5M[/youtube]