Guild alliances
17:35:17 [Shakti]: There is a bunch of things happening on CoTH lately. A bunch of guilds aswell.. Is there any ''alliance'' planned? Any guild we would merge or ally with in order to do events and what not. Are there events planned aswell?
17:35:26 [Shakti]: My pardon, there were two questions, not one.
17:36:26 [Tazzek]: As it is we are not planning for any alliances. I'm going to generalize and say that usually alliances are more for guild versus guild rp. In the past there has been a lot of hate towards slavers and people trying to put them down, so we are doing our
17:36:38 [Tazzek]: best to shut out PVPRP if it's not neccessary. In short we don't want guild battles.
How do we deal with slaves?
17:37:47 [Cazzak]: How do we deal with the slaves, after we capture them? Just take them to the island to roam around?
17:37:58 [Cazzak]: Also, how exactly do the collars work?
17:38:54 [Tazzek]: It can be done one of two ways. Usually if they are collared they are free to roam the island with the OOC implication that they are stranded. Those not collared are put in the cell underground. We try to avoid this usually so no one is stuck without rp.
17:39:26 [Tazzek]: Secondly the collars are anti-magic. They are runic powered so a death knight can, on command, force the collar to strangulate the user. Other than that the collars act as an indicator of ownership by the guild.
17:39:55 [Cazzak]: So what exactly is stopping them from running away from the island? The orcs?
17:40:25 [Cazzak]: Well, if there isn't a Death Knight around to use the collar to strangulate them, there isn't much use in that.
17:40:37 [Tazzek]: A combination of sharks in the water and NPC guards and thugs that work for the guild. It's assumed that there are workers stopping slaves that are part of the guild.
17:41:00 [Cazzak]: Gotcha.
17:41:05 [Tazzek]: The collar as mentioned is anti-magic and an indication of slavery itself. We can add shock collars in the future.
17:41:12 [Tazzek]: Workers as in thugs, bandits and guards.
17:41:21 [Cazzak]: Explosive collars would be cool, too.
17:41:22 [Kis]: Stopping... them from running?
17:41:38 [Tazzek]: From getting off the island. You can only run so far in the water.
How are transactions handled?
17:43:44 [Awit]: For all transactions in which slaves are bought and sold, they would have to be strictly IC, correct?
17:44:03 [Tazzek]: Correct. We only accept [Gold Coin].
17:44:11 Awit nods.
17:44:20 [Awit]: Looks like Awit is gonna be a slave for a long time then XD
17:44:31 [Tazzek]: There has been a tendency for "good guys" to outbuy everyone else by making up figures.
Are we going to go into other businesses?
17:47:34 [Cara]: Are y'all going into other businesses other than slaving?
17:47:44 [Cara]: Drugs, arms running, poaching?
17:48:10 [Zarzul]: Poaching seems cool. Though are there any really endangered specieses in WoW?
17:48:22 [Tazzek]: I'm hoping to start up highway robbery if we get enough thugs for it and some event ideas. We do have a drug operation that the slaves would likely be working at but they don't have to rp it out since it'd be kinda.. boring and stuff.
Do we have any alliances?
17:49:52 [Awit]: I think the named rare beasts can be considered endangered. ANYWAY.... does Oceanside Drade Co. have any guild affiliations?
17:49:55 [Awit]: Trade*
17:50:56 [Tazzek]: Like alliances we don't have any affiliations. We've mostly been insular. People have made proposals for partnerships but so far I've been turning them down since I've been busy and I kinda want to get things going in a certain direction.
The collars! How do they work?
17:53:20 [Malachai]: The collars! How do they work?
17:53:31 Cazzak lets out a hacking cough.
17:53:47 [Tazzek]: If you look up Tazzek's profile under abilities they are mentioned. DKs can activate them. Any outsider DK messing with them though will probably get smacked.
17:53:54 [Malachai]: I see.
17:54:00 [Cazzak]: Smacked?
17:54:14 [Astus]: So what do they do?
17:54:17 [Malachai]: So, they have to be activated on will?
17:54:19 [Astus]: Essentially death knight slavers?
17:54:21 [Tazzek]: Yes.
17:54:24 [Malachai]: Okay.
17:54:35 [Tazzek]: Non-DKs will just have to use their own devices.
17:54:56 [Cazzak]: Can non-slaver DKs alter them?
17:55:04 [Tazzek]: No.
17:55:10 [Cazzak]: What's stopping them?
17:55:26 [Tazzek]: Runes and stuff. I dunno.
17:55:49 [Tazzek]: They can only be removed by DKs as well. Any outsider DKs trying to remove them will also get smacked.
17:56:05 [Cazzak]: Yeah, I was wondering what you meant by 'smacked' and how it would tell the difference.
17:56:22 [Tazzek]: How will we tell if the DK is an outsider? Well, part of it is the smallness of the organization. Another part is OOC, mostly though just asking people not to mess with our slave rp.
17:56:42 [Cazzak]: No I mean, how will the collar tell?
17:57:22 [Dusk]: I'd like to point out that in reality this is likely more of a convenience thing, somuch as to say that we simply request others do not try to bring down the guild.
17:57:24 [Rein]: the runes on the collars were made by Tazzek
17:57:30 [Tazzek]: There's a principle I'm using called KISS or keep it simple, stupid. I don't think we need to make them already more complex than what they are.
How does the Ebon see the guild, and other guild versus guild stuff.
17:56:09 [Gavin]: Still...Gotta question about that...whilst this guild isn't intended for guild v guild rp...I still wonder a little if slaving would count as a so called 'renegade' action or now...
17:58:39 [Tazzek]: Anyways, to address Gavin's issue.
17:58:49 [Cazzak]: Alright, I guess we're doing what Astus/Rein suggested.
17:59:17 [Tazzek]: I am not sure how the Ebon treats "renegades" or slaving. I think the renegade death knight hunting was considered a bit of fanon and the initiative can only be carried out by players and is not Ebon endorsed.
18:01:33 [Tazzek]: I think in short I will say that we aren't doing anything that will warrant the attention of the ebon hold.
18:01:58 Gavin quietly snickers to himself.
18:01:59 [Tazzek]: For the region of the world we are in, our acts are considered "normal"
(we go on to discuss more about the topic of IC opposition)
18:04:58 [Tazzek]: I don't want to overplan for something that may not occur, especially if we are directly avoiding PVPRP
18:05:06 [Rein]: best use KISS until outsiders start throwing rocks at hornets' nests
18:05:23 [Tazzek]: The thing is we're being adamant about no guild versus guild fights and such...
18:05:34 [Cazzak]: Well slaving is a pretty risky thing.
18:05:40 [Tazzek]: I'm sorry if I seem to be trivializing the concern.
18:06:08 [Tazzek]: If it makes you feel better though I am aware of what slaving does OOCly. I am aware that sometimes players try to log in when you're on just so they can kill you.
18:06:26 [Tazzek]: I am aware that one guild may try to defeat the other and try to use their might IC without planning or even deliberating OOCly.
18:06:35 [Cazzak]: Well I mean, slaving would definitely attract some 'good guy' troubles.
18:06:40 [Tazzek]: And because of that I am NOT going to let any of that happen without talking things out first.
18:06:43 [Cazzak]: AKA, guild against guild.
18:06:54 [Tazzek]: So good guys are going to have to either talk to us or not do anything with us at all.
18:07:39 [Hazim]: I generally see this slaving organization as a platform to spread RP, connecting different players together through the purchaser-slave relationship of sorts, and expanding the possibilities for RP thereof.
18:07:46 [Tazzek]: But I am aware of the issue of people trying to change the guild OOCly or force their will of good versus evil rp.
18:08:14 [Tazzek]: I don't like it and I won't be allowing much of it if they are not going to discuss what their intents or plans are OOC and what they want to do -with- us other than hunting us down.
How do we go about getting slaves?
8:10:01 [Cazzak]: How exactly do you go about getting slaves? Is it pretty much just volunteers?
18:10:08 [Dusk]: Yep!
18:10:13 [Cazzak]: Alright, makes sense.
18:10:21 [Tazzek]: Yes, we ask in the LFG and we arrange a capturing rp in non-instanced ZH
18:10:25 [Tazzek]: ZG*
18:10:26 [Dusk]: It's OOC consent the whole way. It avoids drama that way, and you can be sure its the RP they want.