I think his face looking like that is more because theyre going for a kind of realistic cgi approach and also trying to emphasize him and garrosh looking alike being father and son and all.
Youre right though hes pretty freaking ugly.
(08-14-2014, 02:06 PM)c0rzilla Wrote: [ -> ]...Aren't orcs supposed to be ugly?
Yes and no? Obviously there's going to be some personal bias depending on your own aesthetic preferences. I don't generally see orcs as being inherently ugly: brutal, hypermasculine, and intimidating, sure, but not exactly ugly. At least, no more than what is mandated by their particular racial traits, such as their tusks.
More to the point, Grom looks ugly for an orc. Garrosh and Gul'dan in that trailer don't look nearly as beady-eyed or pinch-faced, so I don't think the blame can be placed entirely on the CGI.
I do think this highlights why orcs should never have long hair, though. Yeesh.
Looks like an awesome cinematic to me! A bit cliche perhaps, but still badass!
Squealed like a fan girl the whole time. People will hate it, but the truth of the matter is that most of the people playing the game play it because it's better at what it does than the other games that are out. Lore lovers and roleplayers are a small part of the community, and not the part that blizzard intends to cater to for the most part.
Characters are rarely ever what you imagine them to be once they're brought to life. My quibble is more that Garrosh's jaw is very orc, but from the bottom of the nose up is very human and it's offsetting in comparison to the other orcs. I still love it, despite the fact I hate the whole time-line travel alternate possibility thing they're pulling. For the first time in forever, for the first time beyond a few seconds of screentime where they beat the ground like monkeys (WoW, not counting RTS), I got to see orcs act like orcs.
I've never found the orcs attractive at all until that moment. I still think they're fugly, which is fine because I play toons that think they're fugly anyway, but hot damn.
So I read the other comments before I watched the video and it really wasn't as crap-tastic as I thought it was going to be, but as an orc player I do have the same issues with Grom's appearance. Too broad. Uglier than I had imagined him. Why isn't his jaw tattooed like Garrosh's? Did he do that after drinking the blood of Mannoroth? And from what I understand, shouldn't he be green? He was supposed to be very young for a clan chief and I know the green orcs began giving birth to green children. Also, the lore really has just gone to pot over the years and so far I'm doubtful this will be an improvement, but I am somewhat excited about a primarily orcish story line.
(08-14-2014, 10:43 PM)Vortok Wrote: [ -> ]but I am somewhat excited about a primarily orcish story line.
An orcish storyline where they are all mustache-twirling villains.
Oh Nerzhul, what have they done to you?
(08-14-2014, 10:57 PM)Grakor456 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-14-2014, 10:43 PM)Vortok Wrote: [ -> ]but I am somewhat excited about a primarily orcish story line.
An orcish storyline where they are all mustache-twirling villains.
Oh Nerzhul, what have they done to you?
Hey, it's gotta be better than getting frozen in a block of ice right?
An orc with a mustache is a revolting imagining, Grak, but I'm glad you responded. Do you have the answers to my questions as far as why is he brown and why is his jaw not tattooed?
@"Vortok" About the tattoo thing, he was never tattooed in any of the Blizz stuff he was in before, so leaving it out is sticking to canon or something (check out the cinematic I posted earlier. It does clearly show his face). Are tattoos supposed to be a mark of the Warsong in Blizzard's new lore?
(08-15-2014, 12:07 AM)Vortok Wrote: [ -> ]An orc with a mustache is a revolting imagining, Grak, but I'm glad you responded. Do you have the answers to my questions as far as why is he brown and why is his jaw not tattooed?
Orcs did not become green until after their clan leaders drank from the demon blood. Originally they were brown skinned like the Mag'har. Gul'dan at this point in time, in the cinematic, is the only orc who accepted the contract of the demons, hence why he is green. Because Grommish didn't drink the blood, he and his clan never turned from the demonic influence.
His jaw isn't tattooed because he never did it, I suppose. Garrosh's tattoos are very unique to him.
It is stated in Rise of the Horde that Grom had his jaw tattooed a uniform shade of black when he became chieftain. This is before he drank demon blood. I am not sure if that was retconned or because this timeline's Grom just didnt do it and honestly I dont think it really matters anymore considering WoW's versions of lore characters almost always have differences from the books.
Hold on is Blizzard doing a DC style reboot of its characters?
(08-15-2014, 12:19 AM)Reigen Wrote: [ -> ]Orcs did not become green until after their clan leaders drank from the demon blood. Originally they were brown skinned like the Mag'har. Gul'dan at this point in time, in the cinematic, is the only orc who accepted the contract of the demons, hence why he is green. Because Grommish didn't drink the blood, he and his clan never turned from the demonic influence.
His jaw isn't tattooed because he never did it, I suppose. Garrosh's tattoos are very unique to him.
True, though WC3 (and Rise of the Horde, as mentioned above) depicted Grom with a tattoo'd jaw, so this is just another continuity gaff. The fact that Garrosh is uncorrupted does raise the issue of how old he is, though: if he's brown and not green, that means he must be older than Thrall, which is kinda funny to think about when his story is about him being a young, hot-headed punk.
P.S. Still not over Grom. Grom, man...
(08-15-2014, 07:52 AM)Grakor456 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-15-2014, 12:19 AM)Reigen Wrote: [ -> ]Orcs did not become green until after their clan leaders drank from the demon blood. Originally they were brown skinned like the Mag'har. Gul'dan at this point in time, in the cinematic, is the only orc who accepted the contract of the demons, hence why he is green. Because Grommish didn't drink the blood, he and his clan never turned from the demonic influence.
His jaw isn't tattooed because he never did it, I suppose. Garrosh's tattoos are very unique to him.
True, though WC3 (and Rise of the Horde, as mentioned above) depicted Grom with a tattoo'd jaw, so this is just another continuity gaff. The fact that Garrosh is uncorrupted does raise the issue of how old he is, though: if he's brown and not green, that means he must be older than Thrall, which is kinda funny to think about when his story is about him being a young, hot-headed punk.
P.S. Still not over Grom. Grom, man...
Wait why are we even talking about Garrosh to begin with ? Am I missing something ?
Moreover Grom's face is already tattooed when he drinks from the cup of unity , at least in the Christie Golden novel. I don't think this is just some blunder , you can obviously tell they don't care about any of the other sources.
So evidently Grom was never supposed to look thin. I'm kind of glad he wasn't anyway in the cinematic - it probably would've looked weird.
(08-15-2014, 08:44 AM)Hermitpurple Wrote: [ -> ]Wait why are we even talking about Garrosh to begin with ? Am I missing something ?
Moreover Grom's face is already tattooed when he drinks from the cup of unity , at least in the Christie Golden novel. I don't think this is just some blunder , you can obviously tell they don't care about any of the other sources.
So evidently Grom was never supposed to look thin. I'm kind of glad he wasn't anyway in the cinematic - it probably would've looked weird.
That was a continuation from Vortok's queries above. Also, I pointed out that his jaw was tattoo'd in WC3 as well, so it's not just "other sources." It really is just the art team not really knowing what they're doing, sort of like how within WoW itself they kept changing what hair color Thrall is supposed to have.