How long was it Draenor?

[Bovel]

Well, there have several times surfaced discussion about how long the draenei actually lived on Draenor and I have so far not found any information on it in the game or RPG books. Logically they have been there at least a few decades if you ask me.

Just now I found this though;

* –500
Sargeras' second-in-command, Kil'jaeden, discovers another world ripe for conquest. The world is Draenor, homeland of the shamanistic orcs and the peaceful draenei.

http://www.wowpedia.org/Timeline_%28LoC%29
So they have been there for at -least- 530 years.

And then I found this;

* -c. 5000
Draenei worked the fields of Draenor for nearly 5000 years.

http://www.wowpedia.org/Timeline_%28RTS%29
Now I know this is written long before the eredar-draenei retcon, but it is still at least a mention of them.

Another thing that might point for them being on Draenor for some time is the naaru in Auchindon. It says it is on the end of his millennia long rebirth cycle. Assuming he has spent that within the building it would mean at leat 1000 years plus the time they spent building it.


What do -you- think?

[Piroska]

I checked out WoWWiki's article on the Oshu'gun. It states:

Oshu'gun is in fact a naaru Dimensional Ship, and was a vessel K'ure used to help the draenei flee Argus thousands of years ago, traversing the Twisting Nether until it crash-landed on Draenor approximately two centuries before the First War.

The Draenor article states:

About two hundred and fifty years before the present, the draenei found a tranquil planet in the void. Having at last outrun the bloodthirsty forces of the Burning Legion, the draenei settled the planet and named it "Exile's Refuge" in Eredun: "Draenor".

That is only a quarter of the time that D'ore claims that he has been in Auchidoun. He states:

I was only a dim speck of void energies when the Prophet Velen and his draenei compatriots lifted my remains and brought them here. After much ceremony, my diminished form was laid to rest within this sarcophagus. I have been regenerating for nearly a thousand years. The cycle is almost complete...

So, we can approach this a number of ways. We can assume that D'ore's perception of time is different from ours, that his time spent during the renewal portion of the Naaru lifecycle left him unable to accurately judge the time that passed, or that he's rights and the other sources are wrong. I rather like the timeline given by the practice of Kosh'harg, which puts the landing as being around 250 years ago.

[Bovel]

Kosh'harg?

And this really settles it cause it mentions a timeframe on more important topics. But I will still look into the Kil'jaeden note.


And as for D'ore's comment, one can twist it so that he is put within the sarcophogus a millennia ago and then that moved in Auchindoun.

[Piroska]

Kosh'harg was an orcish gathering held twice a year on Draenor. It was originally intended to be a way for the different clans to get together and discuss important matters. As the years passed, however, it become more of a social gathering. It became a festive environment as opposed to its original serious nature.

I mentioned it in my reply because Kosh'harg is always held in the shadow of the Oshu'gun. I believe that the gathering only began after the Oshu'gun had landed. The spot was probably selected because -- as has also been demonstrated at the Auchiduon -- the presence of K'ure actually attracted the spirits of their orcish ancestors; they communed with the naaru, who continued to reside in the Oshu'gun (though the novel Rise of the Horde actually claims that K'ure is in water in the Oshu'gun, rather than just residing it in the interdimensional vessel as he is in game).

I've been thinking about adding a variation of Kosh'harg to the Events, events, and more events! thread because it would be good to have an orc-centric event planned and because it's also something that could be driven by a tradition that existed for almost three centuries. As such, it might be another aspect of orcish culture that has been reclaimed (rediscovered?) in recent years.

[Bovel]

I think that is a great idea actually.

[Bovel]

But what about this then?

I believe that the dead, which we have been caring for these last 500 odd years, should be left alone.

http://www.wowpedia.org/Quest:Ezekiel


In light of all this I will try and find all mentions of how long they have been their and dig up their source and make my own opinion in the matter.

[Bovel]

Now I have gone over the quests regarding Oshu'gun and Auchindoun and what not and come to a conclusion. According to in-game quests Oshu'gun crashed on Draenor about a millennia ago. In that crash D'ore "died" and was laid to rest in the first tomb of what came to be Auchdindoun.

I have been regenerating for nearly a thousand years. The cycle is almost complete...

I have been looking for in-game proof of the statement 200 years before the first war and find nothing conclusive.