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Taken Too Seriously.
#1
M post on the Final army was not ment to be exacly like Hitler, in fact, I don't see how it would matter. I was not preaching go nazi idea's at all, in fact I would say I am an anti nazi. But what it was taken as was as if I was taking this to RL, but I wasn't, it was a simple IG thing. In fact, when you think of it, this is just really a way that the horde should feel about the Alliance, not all lovey dovey. And the same with Alliance. They, for most of the population, HATE each other. I was simply trying to create a realism on this, but it was deemed against the respect rule, which I might add I value over all others. In my opinion, the idea was blocked based of personal opinion, and not because it was actually anti respectful.

This isn't suppose to offend anyone, it was just simply put out to have people stop looking at things based of something in RL that really aren't like it at all. Remember, this is WoW, not RL. Don't confuse the two please.
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#2
I think the problem wasn't the idea itself but just the off-handed remark of "think Nazis." I don't think anyone would have noticed if you didn't say it at all.

That being said I've noticed a few ideas lately that have made people very sensitive. While they can certainly be, I am not sure if we want to limit what can happen in character and in game based on the OOC implications.
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#3
Well yes, I did say Nazi's, but all I ment was the fact of how the horde, mostly this army, should feel about the alliance. It was not ment to be a pro Nazi thing. I am sorry if it seemed like it.
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#4
Just be more careful with your choice of words and terms. Drawing such parallells looks very, very wrong.
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#5
Yes, I can see that, but I did not expect those on here to take it as personally as they did. Ah well, now I'm going to have to think of another idea.. But I'm keeping the Zeplins. >.>
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#6
How the Horde feels about the Alliance is pretty much how anyone else would feel about their enemies. Nazis, however, viewed their fellow countrymen as weak, and thought it was necessary to kill them off to make a "master race."

I am not sure if we've even seen something like eugenics in WoW, because the difference between races in WoW are actually rather substantial, almost like being a different species of people entirely. You'd only see something like the Nazi ideal if a single race were to apply the standard to themselves rather than the idea that the other races should be wiped out, which is genocide.

Sorry for the tangent, I'm just saying that the two situations are a bit different. If you wanted to make an easy equivalent without having to use the word Nazi, then why not go with "extremist?"
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#7
Wuvvums Wrote:I am not sure if we've even seen something like eugenics in WoW, because the difference between races in WoW are actually rather substantial, almost like being a different species of people entirely. You'd only see something like the Nazi ideal if a single race were to apply the standard to themselves rather than the idea that the other races should be wiped out, which is genocide.

I had said things about the weak, as in those that were siding with the alliance. But I do see the difference. On a different note, I had ment how they treated there POW.

Wuvvums Wrote:Sorry for the tangent, I'm just saying that the two situations are a bit different. If you wanted to make an easy equivalent without having to use the word Nazi, then why not go with "extremist?"

I had not thought of it at the time. As I had said in the post, I wrote it after watching all 8 episodes of Hellsing OVA and taking Holocaust in my school. But yes, extremist would work.

Is it to late to change it? I figure it is, but theres always a chance that it's not.
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Wuvvums Wrote:How the Horde feels about the Alliance is pretty much how anyone else would feel about their enemies. Nazis, however, viewed their fellow countrymen as weak, and thought it was necessary to kill them off to make a "master race."

I am not sure if we've even seen something like eugenics in WoW, because the difference between races in WoW are actually rather substantial, almost like being a different species of people entirely. You'd only see something like the Nazi ideal if a single race were to apply the standard to themselves rather than the idea that the other races should be wiped out, which is genocide.

Sorry for the tangent, I'm just saying that the two situations are a bit different. If you wanted to make an easy equivalent without having to use the word Nazi, then why not go with "extremist?"



Well.. The Forsaken are pretty much the closest thing to this ideal. "Death to the Scourge and Death to the Living." As Puttress said.


But.. /shrug

I'd think another word could've been used, but that's fix-able.
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#9
Well I do like how I wrote most of it, so I'll change it to be more friendly. And get rid of Nazi things. Dam Nazi's...
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