What kind of RP do YOU want to see MORE of?

[Uthaniel]

On prejudice RP...

We actually lack that a lot. Specially when it comes to the -dreaded- cross-race couples.

I haven't seen many of those around lately (or maybe I haven't looked hard enough) but I used to have two characters in a relationship of this sort and I gotta tell you.

It reached the point of hypocrisy.

Everyone that has played a cross-race character has at least once said on GMI "Give me IC drama, not OOC." because it's exactly what happens. People go OOCly to talk about you or your friend's poor knowledge of lore and RP skills, and how those-two-would-never-be-together.
But hell, I'm telling you to go there and punch my character in the face because of it. Not complain OOCly and act like everything is okay ICly.

Most glaring examples are Blood Elf and Human couples; I've saw a few of them, usually they all complained of the same issue: Players would go public of this, walking around with arms tied and love in their faces around major RP hubs where people would act like nothing was wrong at all.

Oooor make an OOC note about it. Joy.

Seriously. I've always been a fan of getting my face bashed in, ICly. Uthaniel pretty much asks for it with almost every action of his. If I'm pissing your character off, have him lash out. Attack, punch. Don't accept it like it's gigantic fun or drop me an OOC drama bomb over it.

Now, again, this is somewhat outdated information as I've not seen or participated in a cross-race couple in a few months. But the point is always worth emphasizing.

Other than that...

I have to admit I'd like Conquest RP. But not conquering lore-towns.
I mean, there's towns the factions can already hold, right? Why not despawn the guards that protect it and make it shift allegiance through RP every now and then?

Worst case scenario, I don't think it'll have been gigantic work. Or impossible to do.

And...

Stereotypes? Yes, please.
Dwarves? Munix is resting on my account. Feel free to ask anytime you want to do something other than drinking (Dwarf Paladin for the win, by the way)

I'd also like to see a decent good versus evil storyline. One that actually spams big enough to involve people that aren't aligned to a particular fashion, need to make a new character to take part in, or find a reason that feels otherworldly to them to join.

I don't particularly mind doing either of those things, but I'd also love to have one of my more uncommon characters (Like Uthaniel) get swooped up in a fight he had no true wish to take part in simply because he was with the wrong people at the wrong time (Much like before!).

My point is, not everyone that's -good- will fight for the -good- side, and not everyone that's -evil- will fight for the -evil- side. But when everything seems too black and white, most of those gray characters are likely going to stay away from the conflict.

I'd love to see a fight that threatened more than just a town, or a handful of people. "Evil" doesn't aim at only hurting their enemies. Marianna is a good example of that, with the booty bay plague and all.(I was away for most of it, but kudos!)

I like roleplaying heroes, and I like roleplaying villains. But sometimes I just want to roleplay an idiot in a battlefield.

[Nexi]

Military RP. With Iutu in the Argent Crusade, I'm really starting to enjoy playing the battle-hardened, Spetsnaz-inspired soldier. :P

[Jonoth]

I definitely would like to see more Ironforge (and Dwarf in general) RP. I ended up doing a lot of RP with Kerana in Stormwind because that seemed to be where I could do the best IC recruiting. I'm guilty as hell of a lot of Dwarf tavern RP, but it's what I can get until I get some events up and running. I had some things planned before which I still intend to do, and it took a backburner when I started a new job. But I intend to have Axestorm Smithing do a lot more, and would love some military-centric guilds operate as customers, and even some Horde or ebil Alliance ones attempt to rob our shipments.

[SpiralLateralus]

The kind where everyone sits in a drum circle and sings songs about love and flowers and kisses and kittens and puppies. Then all of the sudden we lose our sanity and start killing each other.

That's my kind of RP.

[Cressy]

I read all these posts about more racism..but I rarely have anyone else to do it with. I don't know how many times my characters have been scolded for what normally would be the normal way of thinking. Which..really is unfortunate. I get that more people have a progressive way of thinking IRL and that breaking from that in RP is hard, but people should give it a shot.

Anyways...

Marriage RP is fun. Back in the day, Vrahn and I had a couple of evil people together. We adlibbed most of their history together, which made it all the better. Unfortunately, I do not trust many people on the server with that sort of thing anymore..Always gets messy! Anyways...

[Aerikan]

My thoughts on racism/prejudice really circle back to my thoughts on RP in general - do whatever makes a good story.

If prejudice leads to conflicts, and everyone involved has an interesting time of it, great. If an open mind allows you to engage with more people to create more stories, great. I generally think that both RL views and lore-appropriate views are both much less important than whatever makes for a good story. I mean, it's good to think "what would my character do?" and "What makes sense in this world?" But if the answer to either of those questions is something that makes for a boring story or shitty RP, I say throw it out. My characters generally have an open mind on race simply because it lets me interact with a greater variety of people, which leads to more storytelling. By nature I am better at getting cooperative and goal-based RP going vs faction/race conflict, so that's what I do, and it leads to active RP, so I am satisfied.

I want more Forsaken RP! Forsaken are awesome. Unlike every other race, they are ugly, downtrodden, have something to prove, have distance to make up, are mistrusted and disliked. They're the underdogs! Everyone likes underdogs. Go Forsaken!

I am still enjoying my investigative stories, and still plan to come up with cases whenever I play Azeroth's Greatest Detective (citation needed), so anyone is welcome to join my mysteries and detective adventures. Though there is always some crime/mystery angle, there is plenty of action, comedy, travel, drama, and occasionally romance as well.

Speaking of romance, I like it best when it builds. The whole love-at-first-sight thing gets old, and random sex doesn't generate much plot. It's rare and cool when you can actually get a relationship that grows and evolves over time. I'd like to thank my bestest RP buddy for actually creating one of those with me, that's still full of uncertainty and room to grow and change.

Also, there should be more kung fu as a general rule.

[Grakor456]

Most glaring examples are Blood Elf and Human couples; I've saw a few of them, usually they all complained of the same issue: Players would go public of this, walking around with arms tied and love in their faces around major RP hubs where people would act like nothing was wrong at all.

This is something that actually inspired me to play Gunnar as I do. I always said that I have no problem with cross-race or cross-factional couples, only when they're done badly. I wanted Gunnar, if he ever gets into a relationship, to be able to do it right. Keep that love secret, don't act all lovey dovey in cities, so on and so forth.

That would be good RP and an interesting romance, IMO. Same with any other unusual pairing.

[ImagenAshyun]

Now I know exactly how I wanna RP Diawata. Prejudice RP is in tall order.

I enjoy it when I see other draenei react to how Dia has a human for a mate, but by far, most of the conflict that arose is over the issue of life span differences. What about potential half-bred children? Or that the less savory parts of human culture would rub off on Diawata? So far, it's all just life-span differences, so the only way for me to spark actual conflict is--ICly out of character, at first (not OOCly, mind you)--Kapre, of all people. But as soon as I provided an in-character justification ("you're taking my sister away from me!"), all was well. I wish I can see other draenei act similarly, as they have a population crisis due to their long but quickly ending lives and low reproductive rates. There is more to draenei/anyone else romance than just lifespan differences.

I can surely assist in properly RPing crossfactional/interracial romance RPs and the drama that is associated with them. But it'll involve some policy changes. Kapre will still accept and make crossfactional/interracial matches, but it'll be done discreetly and without public advertisement. Meanwhile, I hope someone would crack him down for what he's been doing.

[therew]

I would love to see more horde clans out there. And not the shallow " we love thrall and hate the alliance " warrior clans that always show up and last a solid week. But clans that do clan like things. Move around, interact with other clans, facing the smaller challenges of life in horde territory. I been running a clan like this for almost 2 years now, we never been big or famous but the rp is always solid so it does work having a horde clan that has more going for it than hating the alliance.(Mind you my clan doent love the alliance, we just worry about other things too). Bottom line, not every horde clan that comes around has to be a new warsong, doesn't hurt to be a frost wolf, a black tooth grin, or for that matter making up your own slice of orcish culture and seeing what happens.

[Lancelet]

Y'know, every time I am part of 'prejudice' RP, it's invariably some orc or troll standing around IN SILVERMOON very loudly and obnoxiously declaring his hatred for the race. In front of guards and citizens, plenty of whom are trying to make the best of the strange alliance they've found themselves in.

Also, most of it tends to exist in the form of "blah blah blah pansy elf" and nothing more, which is well past being old. Although it was funny when my elf fought a Forsaken warlock who'd kidnapped and experimented on his then-fiancee, proceeded to go full GOD IS PISSED OFF AT YOU on the character (it takes A LOT to make Lance angry), and everyone was standing around making bets against the "wimpy elf" even as he roflstomped his opponent into the dirt. Lethally.

I think as far as lore goes, there should be more of it; it's just done poorly most of the time.

Just sayin'.

[FlyingSquirrel]

Also, most of it tends to exist in the form of "blah blah blah pansy elf" and nothing more, which is well past being old. Although it was funny when my elf fought a Forsaken warlock who'd kidnapped and experimented on his then-fiancee, proceeded to go full GOD IS PISSED OFF AT YOU on the character (it takes A LOT to make Lance angry), and everyone was standing around making bets against the "wimpy elf" even as he roflstomped his opponent into the dirt. Lethally.

Eh, that's just a racial prejudice. That's like not calling Orcs Greenskins, or not calling Night Elves hippies. Really, it will never stop.

[Lancelet]

Oh, I know it won't. I just wish they could be more creative sometimes.

An orc from his guild once picked a fight with my same elf. The orc obviously won the rolls for brute strength, but he was outmaneuvered and ended up losing. The prejudice was still there afterward, but tempered with a grudging respect for a comrade.

I like that kind of interaction much better myself. Let the prejudice exist, but at least find a way for the characters to respect each other in some way.

[Grakor456]

That actually goes into another thing...we have this odd paradox of there being too little prejudice RP...except within the Horde, where there's *too much.* So many orcs/trolls/tauren are hating on their own allies, it's really bizarre. Same is true in the opposite direction, with Belves/Forsaken hating on the Old Hordies. Yes, there should be some tension, but c'mon, guys. Is *every* orc going to run around calling Elves pansies?

Edit: Should clarify. It gets even more odd when said orcs specifically hate Blood Elves or Forsaken...yet are totally cool with some of the Alliance races. What?

[Lancelet]

That actually goes into another thing...we have this odd paradox of there being too little prejudice RP...except within the Horde, where there's *too much.* So many orcs/trolls/tauren are hating on their own allies, it's really bizarre. Same is true in the opposite direction, with Belves/Forsaken hating on the Old Hordies. Yes, there should be some tension, but c'mon, guys. Is *every* orc going to run around calling Elves pansies?

Edit: Should clarify. It gets even more odd when said orcs specifically hate Blood Elves or Forsaken...yet are totally cool with some of the Alliance races. What?

Pretty much this. I've said it before too. Forsaken that seem to hate -nothing but elves- also chap my hide. They seem to hate them far more than orcs, from the RP I've experienced over time. You know, there was that whole orc/human conflict, but it seems to be ignored. It's just cooler to hate elves.

Anyway, I gotta get back to work.

[CappnRob]

Oh my gawwwwd I love all these replies. TIME TO MAKE SOME MORE MYSELF.

• Prejudice RP, yes. But I also want RACISM RP. I think of my anchorite Telah as quite the tolerant draenei when considering their past, when during most roleplay he becomes the worst of the bunch since none else seem to play or even consider racism or even plain hatred.
  
• Outland RP. I have run the Draenic Pilgrimage for over a year now and during all that time I've only seen one other party out there and that was a short campaign by the Bloodsworn Honourguard. I'd like to see more roleplay out here in general, not only draenei but anyone and everyone.
  
• Commoner/civilian RP. I remember back in the days when there was a Commoner's Guild in Elwynn which revovled around the bulk of people in this world, the craftsmen and farmers and so on. I would like to see more roleplay of this kind for ambiance but also cause having actual players to turn to instead of NPCs while roleplaying would be awesome!
  
• A roleplayed tavern, from scratch. Making the most it the tavern's personal should buy/brew drinks, buy/hunt/bake/harvest the food as well as prepare it. If the players acting barmaids and such in a tavern have a good ground with their fellow workers it will be more fun coming to visit the place too.
  
• Religious RP. Wow is permeated with religion, most of us know that. But still we -all- are really bad at roleplaying this. I would like to see more preaching and open sermons, priests and spiritutalists doing what they are actually supposed to do, not just hang out at some inn.

Racism RP is great too, but I set the bar at prejudice because its a tad bit easier to get into. That said, if you wanna be racist, then bring it on!
Outland RP is a do damn want. My pally has a deep respect and fascination with the place, and I hope to throw him into the Draenic Pilgrimage some time in the future (at the moment he has IC obligations to tend to).
And I would love religious RP as well! My pally is actually rather down to earth about his faith, but my troll shaman, Madugo, is very pious about shamanism and the Loa, and will talk your head off about it if you let him.

What I mean is, and Grak pointed this out excellently, actually, NPCs see what your characters do too. You need to hide your social transgressions because they're considered unacceptable by society as a whole. Fear your fellow PCs because you fear the faceless mob.

The faceless mob should be a factor, but they really don't help much for immersion. It'd be nice if some PCs were a part of that mob too.

I think the low player population makes it difficult for prejudice rp as well. If you had your own groups to go back to after going through any prejudice rp I think it'd work a bit better. Instead you get exiled from the clique surrounding you and then your character is pretty much forever alone.

I think it's hard to explain coherently but I do know that because it's hard to find rp for a certain race, it forces you to rp with a cluster of races most of the time.

So things I like...

Criminal rp: I like jumping people and stealing their stuff. I like drug smuggling. I like kidnapping and ransoms. I like receiving this as well as dishing out. Thing is nobody really travels outside of cities that much anymore so I actually have to make an event or pull some people to make a heist doable. There were two that worked well but I retired my bandit character to being a normal character, mostly because there aren't enough of them.

Also as a note if you do anything criminal you may get meta-gamed a lot for it. I know I did.

Family rp: I've been getting a little tired with romance and would prefer some brothers and sisters these days. I'd also like to play people's parents or grandparents, or be cousin to someone. Pretty much anything to say that these two characters should know one another even before they started rp. Some of it can be spontaneous too, like when I decided to roll a troll to be Thrazz's sister and we both made them Hawk's children.

((I made a new human grandma named Doris, by the way))

Friendship: I think as mentioned I've had too much of romance so I would like more of rp where you have your best buddy and you do stuff together. It's really fun having a best friend to hang out with.

Married couple: something that I've only done with Rigley so far, and it's cute. I think as other people mentioned there's a lot of steamy lusty romance but whenever I rp a married couple it's all about the relationship. It's a partnership, they look out for one another, and they are just as much friends and pals as they are lovers.

Slave rp: I really miss this but slave rp has always been a bit difficult since you become HATED by the server for being a slaver and as a slave people are constantly trying to save you. I think my slave was even disliked after awhile because she would turn down help from most people and served her master faithfully (out of fear of punishment). She was also confident that she could get herself out of the situation...

Either way I always liked the slave/master or servant/master relationship. I'm a bit hesitant though of who to do it with since you want a player that is active but also one you can trust.

PS: Will always lawl that I managed to enslave Kapre within 20 minutes of rping with him <3

Edit: ENGIE rp. Moar engineers would be awesome.

While its understandable that low population contributes to lack of prejudice RP, there are still plenty of characters I've seen who don't have any defined reason to be progressively minded other than the fact the players don't want to RP out prejudice.
Criminal RP should definitely see an increase. So far, all the evil characters I've seen are out-right villains, there is a lack of highwaymen, thugs, thieves, and what not, which is a shame. The only "thug" character I know personally is Immy's character Bastos.
Family and friends RP would be awesome! I RP Cristovao in both situations, or try to: he sees Kapre as something like a brother in law, and until their recent falling out he often bro'd around with Matthew, Valon and Saronsen. I love "buddy" RP and when playing on a PvP server that was often the most kind of RP I got, and it was always fun (especially when your buddies are a badass dwarf warrior and a derpy human rogue). As for marriage, I do that with Hrodebert mostly, Cristo and Diawata are yet to be married (though Cristo wants to change that), and Madugo is a troll so he doesn't actually marry (he also just hasn't been RP'd as much as the other two anyway).
Slavery RP is another RP that is like prejudice RP: its multifaceted, but people often just focus on the extreme negatives, when in fact there are a variety of ways to approach the situation.
Engineer RP would be great, especially if you get some engineers that aren't just gnomes. I know the Draenic Pilgrimage storyline has Draenei warp-engineers.

On prejudice RP...

We actually lack that a lot. Specially when it comes to the -dreaded- cross-race couples.

I haven't seen many of those around lately (or maybe I haven't looked hard enough) but I used to have two characters in a relationship of this sort and I gotta tell you.

It reached the point of hypocrisy.

Everyone that has played a cross-race character has at least once said on GMI "Give me IC drama, not OOC." because it's exactly what happens. People go OOCly to talk about you or your friend's poor knowledge of lore and RP skills, and how those-two-would-never-be-together.
But hell, I'm telling you to go there and punch my character in the face because of it. Not complain OOCly and act like everything is okay ICly.

Most glaring examples are Blood Elf and Human couples; I've saw a few of them, usually they all complained of the same issue: Players would go public of this, walking around with arms tied and love in their faces around major RP hubs where people would act like nothing was wrong at all.

Oooor make an OOC note about it. Joy.

Seriously. I've always been a fan of getting my face bashed in, ICly. Uthaniel pretty much asks for it with almost every action of his. If I'm pissing your character off, have him lash out. Attack, punch. Don't accept it like it's gigantic fun or drop me an OOC drama bomb over it.

Now, again, this is somewhat outdated information as I've not seen or participated in a cross-race couple in a few months. But the point is always worth emphasizing.

Other than that...

I have to admit I'd like Conquest RP. But not conquering lore-towns.
I mean, there's towns the factions can already hold, right? Why not despawn the guards that protect it and make it shift allegiance through RP every now and then?

Worst case scenario, I don't think it'll have been gigantic work. Or impossible to do.

And...

Stereotypes? Yes, please.
Dwarves? Munix is resting on my account. Feel free to ask anytime you want to do something other than drinking (Dwarf Paladin for the win, by the way)

I'd also like to see a decent good versus evil storyline. One that actually spams big enough to involve people that aren't aligned to a particular fashion, need to make a new character to take part in, or find a reason that feels otherworldly to them to join.

I don't particularly mind doing either of those things, but I'd also love to have one of my more uncommon characters (Like Uthaniel) get swooped up in a fight he had no true wish to take part in simply because he was with the wrong people at the wrong time (Much like before!).

My point is, not everyone that's -good- will fight for the -good- side, and not everyone that's -evil- will fight for the -evil- side. But when everything seems too black and white, most of those gray characters are likely going to stay away from the conflict.

I'd love to see a fight that threatened more than just a town, or a handful of people. "Evil" doesn't aim at only hurting their enemies. Marianna is a good example of that, with the booty bay plague and all.(I was away for most of it, but kudos!)

I like roleplaying heroes, and I like roleplaying villains. But sometimes I just want to roleplay an idiot in a battlefield.

Approved SO hard for that first one. I sometimes see flak fly over interracial couples on GMI about how lore-improper they are, but ICly you NEVER see flak fly, when it should be the opposite. You can't tell people how to RP their characters, they are free to love whoever they desire, if you are bothered by their union then express it ICly, don't piss and moan at them on GMI.

Of course I always love it when I get OOC support for a relationship that's problematic ICly. I <3 Nexi for doing this with Cristovao and Diawata, made me feel good

As for conquest RP, I think some rebellions from city guards or other NPC supported storyline events would be awesome. We don't have to change the foundations of the world, but some modestly sized events would be cool.

Now I know exactly how I wanna RP Diawata. Prejudice RP is in tall order.

I enjoy it when I see other draenei react to how Dia has a human for a mate, but by far, most of the conflict that arose is over the issue of life span differences. What about potential half-bred children? Or that the less savory parts of human culture would rub off on Diawata? So far, it's all just life-span differences, so the only way for me to spark actual conflict is--ICly out of character, at first (not OOCly, mind you)--Kapre, of all people. But as soon as I provided an in-character justification ("you're taking my sister away from me!"), all was well. I wish I can see other draenei act similarly, as they have a population crisis due to their long but quickly ending lives and low reproductive rates. There is more to draenei/anyone else romance than just lifespan differences.

I can surely assist in properly RPing crossfactional/interracial romance RPs and the drama that is associated with them. But it'll involve some policy changes. Kapre will still accept and make crossfactional/interracial matches, but it'll be done discreetly and without public advertisement. Meanwhile, I hope someone would crack him down for what he's been doing.

Yay! I look forward to Dia's prejudices coming out more and how Cristo will react to it. I also want to subject the two of them to more biases against their union: Kapre was a great start at this. Of course love must ultimately succeed but they can have a hell of a ride until then.

Y'know, every time I am part of 'prejudice' RP, it's invariably some orc or troll standing around IN SILVERMOON very loudly and obnoxiously declaring his hatred for the race. In front of guards and citizens, plenty of whom are trying to make the best of the strange alliance they've found themselves in.

Also, most of it tends to exist in the form of "blah blah blah pansy elf" and nothing more, which is well past being old. Although it was funny when my elf fought a Forsaken warlock who'd kidnapped and experimented on his then-fiancee, proceeded to go full GOD IS PISSED OFF AT YOU on the character (it takes A LOT to make Lance angry), and everyone was standing around making bets against the "wimpy elf" even as he roflstomped his opponent into the dirt. Lethally.

I think as far as lore goes, there should be more of it; it's just done poorly most of the time.

Just sayin'.

*brofist*

When there is prejudice RP, its often directed at the elves. And its always the same old shit: "hurr durr elves are X and are Y and are Z lolololol". It's really quite annoying, if there's going to be prejudice against elves, have some solid reasoning behind it beyond the tired out "they're puny!", especially when you really think about it, the elves are just as strong as most other races.

By extension of that, I want to address dwarfs and elves: the dwarves were, lore-wise, just as close friends to the high elves as the humans were, if not more so. Yet usually when you do see a dwarf, rare as it is, they just talk shit about elves being pansies. Yeah, elves are now the enemy of dwarfs, and that sense of betrayal should go a bit deeper than "lol pansy elves". As for Night elves.... a whole different grabbag. Maybe.

Alright, that's enough walls of text for now.