Server Restart: Possible Training Cost Change

[Delta]

Did anyone else notice what board this topic is posted in, by the way?



I don't really have a leg to stand on when it comes to this issue. I have more gold than I could ever sensibly spend, let alone in less than ten days.
There is the issue of flight points, which can become costly when one is travelling to locations which don't fall under the ones encompassed in the portals.

[Bovel]

I think it is a good idea, CotH is about RP and if enough money is given to cover skills, riding, proffessions and one set of good epics, then we're set.

[Kretol]

Flights were made free a while back.
And what about the board?

[Delta]

Goodness, that shows how much attention I've been paying.
Pardon.
& There's nothing wrong with it! Blogs are a good idea!

[Velasco]

I am not a fan of lowering said gold rewards. However, I don't see why CotH needs gold *at all*... When things can be made free (mounts, training)... And we have the .addrpitem command.. And if people want Stats... Why can't grunts with level 80 toons... Be able to use the equivalent command for giving themselves statted items? And of course, this doesn't stop people who (for some reason) feel like earning things the *hard way* from going out and earning their own gold and items and stuff... Just my two cents. Im rather brain numb at the moment.

[Wuvvums]

Professions aren't so bad if they stay the way they were. I was actually able to grind up to 450 on engineering using the grey.. I just made a ton of rough blasting powder. It's some other things that would be costly (the chopper schematic is 450 gold alone if I recall... and that was with decreased price rates).

[Jaella]

Did anyone else notice what board this topic is posted in, by the way?



I don't really have a leg to stand on when it comes to this issue. I have more gold than I could ever sensibly spend, let along in less than ten days.
There is the issue of flight points, which can become costly when one is travelling to locations which don't fall under the ones encompassed in the portals.

Remember, after the wipe.
All of that is gone.
You'll get a brand slate money-wise.
Also, the current costs of a chopper is roughly 675g, the materials alone.
Some people need the bike for their RP.
Also, the flying machines also take a big bite out of your pocket.
Since some engineery folks want to have that one used in their IC travels, will ruin the atmosphere if you flew a broom and say it's a flying machine or a bear and say it's a chopper.

[Uthaniel]

Well.
I don't know if anyone has said this before (I'm being lazy)

But not everyone wants to raid.
Or farm.
Or do dailies.
Some of us, actually, -ran away from that-.

But we want to, say, max engineering so we can get a bike or an NPC for the sake of roleplaying.

Or tailoring. Etc. I've always wanted to max a lot of professions on my characters since I had ideas to use them for roleplay purposes, but I never did because frankly, I hate doing dailies. Yeah, it's five hundred gold a day. Do it daily for a month and you have more gold than you could possibly spend.

But I don't like to do it. The 3000g at least helped me max one or two professions before running out of cash.

EDIT: Perhaps you could create an NPC to max someone's professions? Y/N?

[Psychyn]

Good idea, let's get people working on things instead of giving away so much for (nearly) free already. Yes you've lost a fair bunch of that 3k gold to skills, but even with that 3k and no skills you still couldn't support that profession of your choice to highest level.

Aka, that won't change and it evens out without the class skills. I think it's a good idea, and seeing money is more easily spend on gear upgrades you can actually do the dailies* and quests to earn additional income. Not everything has to be free on CotH, I actually like the idea of spending time and effort into professions just like Retail again.

( * Do make sure the dailies work properly then, if not ; Fix them or offer an pick up NPC to pick up the daily gold you would normally get for doing the dailies if they are not completable.)

To be honest, the reason I never bothered with professions was that they were too easy. Too simple to do. Yes it costs gold, yes it costs time, but you don't have to grind the plans, grind the materials, run around Azeroth exploring and finding just those ores or herbs.

I think it's a good call. You get bumped to eighty, get 1000 gold, get free skills and riding training, work for the rest.

There might be MORE dust-collecting characters made with little thought to the history besides getting an extra 1k. Three characters to get the amount you get on one currently.

.. I honestly would not bother myself to roll an alt (and go through the entire approval process) just for that 1000g. It's easily earned within a few hours doing dailies, dungeons and quests. Admittedly the biggest money maker on retail is the Auctioneer.. Perhaps it's a thing to bring that back so we actually get some economy up? Let people post the auctions for their prices, instead of having an auctioneer bot selling things for just a percentage of the actual cost.

Remember that you can still warp in weapons and clothes for RP, so the above would solely work with outfitting your characters OOCly. Still allows us to make some money on things, mainly professions and gearing up. Then professions won't be as useless to level up as well, as previously only Engineer/Inscribing/Jewelcrafting had a real use. Motorbike, glyphs, gems. With the auctioneer bot gone, you can actually earn a buck with Alchemy, Blacksmithing, and pretty much all the other professions as well.

Despite my earlier comment, I'm not sure I'm going to weigh having full T10 immediately as that big of a deal. I had priced it to be something to work towards, not for characters to be decked out in it within an hour. If anything, perhaps I'll lower the cost of some of the lower tiers.

*Like*

[Xigo]

Well the thing is concerning an auction house... why bother when you can just .add rp item xxxyz?

I kinda find it a bit silly that we care so much about OOC things on an RP server. But whatevs.

EDIT: Taking note of the chopper. ... I personally think that thing is so bloody stupid, and can't be taken seriously.

[Karunzo]

I am in favor of this idea.

If you want to have your proffessions maxed and your shiny epics, you can just do the dailies and put some effort into it. I feel like that sort of OOC nonsense doesn't affect RP in the slightest and as such I don't really see the point in giving profiled characters 10k gold just so that they can walk around in T10 for a few minutes and have their proffesions maxed out.

[Cressy]

I don't see why epics are necessary. Honestly, people spend enough time OOCing and let storylines grow stagnant. I dunno, I don't get why people spend so much money on crap that isn't for their RP.

But back on the topic, don't give away so much money. I ended up using my extra money for Jean's events. I was hucking out two to three hundred and fifty gold each time.

[Psychyn]

Well the thing is concerning an auction house... why bother when you can just .add rp item xxxyz?

I kinda find it a bit silly that we care so much about OOC things on an RP server. But whatevs.

EDIT: Taking note of the chopper. ... I personally think that thing is so bloody stupid, and can't be taken seriously.

As I said, to OOCly gear up. You can sell potions on there when they don't get under-priced by the AH bot, blacksmithing weapons at max level, glyphs, gems, rare mounts and all sorts of junk. Actually have gear with stats, or your weapon with stats on it, etc. Yes you can .lo rp every weapon/armour in, but their all statless. I think I'd personally prefer having the actual weapon with stats so I can kill a mob when it charges at me during RP, then swinging around doing 1 damage for the next five minutes. Auction house can help with that I suppose.

It may not become the biggest source of income, but still beats having an AH filled with under-priced stuff that makes all professions useless when it comes to making money.

As for the chopper, it's not a thing I myself personally care about much, but I'm sure there are others that do.

I don't get why people spend so much money on crap that isn't for their RP.

Because they can and WoW is more then just an RP medium. At least, that's my view on it. WoW has never been a core RP game, nor will it ever truly become one.

[Cressy]

I get that, but this is a roleplaying server. If people want to grind, go to retail. I mean, catering to the ooc aspect shouldn't mateer here.

[Mirivian]

*Sigh* because to some people professions and so on isn't actually grinding? I've found ways to incorporate my professions into my character backgrounds and temperaments and it isn't really a huge stretch to do. If someone just wants to go through things mindlessly for ONE item, then yes, fine, but I am actually the crazy person out in the world hunting and skinning and fishing and cooking and learning firstaid ingame because my character is self-sufficient and that is what he would naturally do.

Well, that and when I log in everyone is on GM Island and I've yet to have any rp but details, details.

WoW isn't just a pixelated chatroom for me, it is an MMO in its own right and for some people rp isn't standing around talking. I prefer a more hands-on approach and, as I've mentioned before, I've been doing that for a while. It doesn't make me a "Nub" I'm just...old skool. Just sayin' - different strokes, yes? If anything I don't quite understand where the bit about actually playing WoW for WoW's sake means you're not even remotely roleplaying has come from...but go figure. As long as I'm left to do my thing, let it roll.