Questions on Shadow magic

[McKnighter]

Can some explain Shadow magic to me? How does one gain power to use, -how- do you use it, etc.



Could anyone learn how to use the Light/Shadow, provided they followed and believed in it?

[Sol]

A while ago, Pletious had a similar question.

"Shadow?"

Read through that thread. It pretty much turned into a Shadow lore-related infodump. :P To address your question directly, I don't think it's a matter of just following and believing in it, otherwise pretty much most of the human race would be able to wield it. To wield it to the extent of your average paladin or priest requires years of training and meditation.

[PiesOfNub]

From my understanding, the power to wield Light Magic comes from years of training, and the belief that one's path is true. Shadow Magic, though a polar opposite of Light Magic, can be used in conjunction with it's opposite. Light and Shadow must always exist in an equalibrium, so Priests gain the power to use both to retain a sense of Balance.

[Sol]

From my understanding, the power to wield Light Magic comes from years of training, and the belief that one's path is true. Shadow Magic, though a polar opposite of Light Magic, can be used in conjunction with it's opposite. Light and Shadow must always exist in an equalibrium, so Priests gain the power to use both to retain a sense of Balance.

From the thread I linked:

Let me remind the server, as this is confused often, you cannot learn shadow and light at the same time. Using one causes your ability to use the other null, forcing you to forsake the one you were using and restart learning the one you knew before and had lost.

The Light and the Shadow are intrinsically opposite concepts - abiding and subscribing to one eliminates your ability to abide and subscribe by the other. Followers of the Shadow are encouraged towards egotism, while followers of the Light towards altruism.

[McKnighter]

The shadow energy (aka Shadow Plane) is not limited to a single plane; it is instead an integral part of every aspect of the universe, woven into every plane. Thus, spells that call upon this energy, such as shadow conjuration, draw upon local sources rather than reaching to another plane. Positive energy remains associated with the energies possessed by living beings, and negative energy with the motive forces of death and the undead. Magical weapons that have effects wielding this energy draw upon energy bound into their own material, freed by enchantment.[1] "Shadow" is spell type common to many items and spells created by the Shadow Council and other such nefarious organizations.[2] The arcane and shadow magic appear to be tied together.[3] In the RPG, Shadow appears to be split into subcategories or is synonymous with "Darkness", "Negative", "Death", "Destruction", "Chaotic", "Evil", and "Fel". It is a damage type often found as a bonus type damage (enchantment or enhancement) in the RPG. In one example it's also a sub-school of the magic school of Illusion (illusions composed of a quasi-real, tangible shadow material with shadow bonuses, ex. Storm, Earth and Fire).[4] Spells of shadow may derive their power from actual shadows & darkness.[5]

Right, so by this statement, Death Magic, aka Necromancy, could go in hand with Shadow magic?


And lets say I want Redis to learn basic Shadow powers, just being able to link his mind with others by connecting physically(Like, touching), then to mentally. How long would this take if a Shadow mage was teaching him? Redis is an arcane mage right now.

[Nexi]

The shadow energy (aka Shadow Plane) is not limited to a single plane; it is instead an integral part of every aspect of the universe, woven into every plane. Thus, spells that call upon this energy, such as shadow conjuration, draw upon local sources rather than reaching to another plane. Positive energy remains associated with the energies possessed by living beings, and negative energy with the motive forces of death and the undead. Magical weapons that have effects wielding this energy draw upon energy bound into their own material, freed by enchantment.[1] "Shadow" is spell type common to many items and spells created by the Shadow Council and other such nefarious organizations.[2] The arcane and shadow magic appear to be tied together.[3] In the RPG, Shadow appears to be split into subcategories or is synonymous with "Darkness", "Negative", "Death", "Destruction", "Chaotic", "Evil", and "Fel". It is a damage type often found as a bonus type damage (enchantment or enhancement) in the RPG. In one example it's also a sub-school of the magic school of Illusion (illusions composed of a quasi-real, tangible shadow material with shadow bonuses, ex. Storm, Earth and Fire).[4] Spells of shadow may derive their power from actual shadows & darkness.[5]

Right, so by this statement, Death Magic, aka Necromancy, could go in hand with Shadow magic?


And lets say I want Redis to learn basic Shadow powers, just being able to link his mind with others by connecting physically(Like, touching), then to mentally. How long would this take if a Shadow mage was teaching him? Redis is an arcane mage right now.

Necromancy is shadow magic, but the skills a necromancer possesses in shadow are far different than the ones a shadow priest would have.

As for learning this, well... the problem is that being able to do this goes into the Shadow Priest's realm. We don't really like to see people doing things outside of their IC class. Now, I could easily be wrong, but since this sort of spell isn't in the Mage's or Warlock's spell list, we wouldn't want those classes doing that regardless of being taught ICly how. You'd have to reroll Redis as a Shadow Priest.

Still, being able to learn these kinds of things would vary depending on a whole mess of things. Most notably how quickly the student learns, how well the teacher can teach, and how much time you can devote to your studies, so we can't really give an accurate time frame.

Hope this helps!

[Grakor456]

From the thread I linked:

Let me remind the server, as this is confused often, you cannot learn shadow and light at the same time. Using one causes your ability to use the other null, forcing you to forsake the one you were using and restart learning the one you knew before and had lost.

The Light and the Shadow are intrinsically opposite concepts - abiding and subscribing to one eliminates your ability to abide and subscribe by the other. Followers of the Shadow are encouraged towards egotism, while followers of the Light towards altruism.

Not to needlessly contradict Anski, but this would contradict what is possible in-game, and thus contradicts our general policy on abilities able to be used ICly.

In-game, your character can learn both Holy and Shadow. Therefore, ICly he can as well. Period.

[McKnighter]

From the thread I linked:

Let me remind the server, as this is confused often, you cannot learn shadow and light at the same time. Using one causes your ability to use the other null, forcing you to forsake the one you were using and restart learning the one you knew before and had lost.

The Light and the Shadow are intrinsically opposite concepts - abiding and subscribing to one eliminates your ability to abide and subscribe by the other. Followers of the Shadow are encouraged towards egotism, while followers of the Light towards altruism.

Not to needlessly contradict Anski, but this would contradict what is possible in-game, and thus contradicts our general policy on abilities able to be used ICly.

In-game, your character can learn both Holy and Shadow. Therefore, ICly he can as well. Period.

I think you'll be able to, but you wouldn't be able to master both, because the you'll have to fully believe in both the Light and the Shadow... Which clash. So you can master the Light, but be able to have some mind control spells.


The only way you could master both is by having split personalities? Perhaps?