Sub-races and why We don't need to CMC them

[Harmonic]

So, @Cerb57 found a few Forest Trolls who don't use the normal bulky model!

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Thanks for the images Cerb! Now, let's see if we can't find some Ice Trolls who use the lanky model player model!

These were taken in the Hinterlands---Vilebranch and Revantusk. One of these groups belongs to the Horde.

Edit: You can even see, in one of the pictures of the drummers, there's a bulky Revantusk standing right next to a skinny one.

[Thoradin]

Chiming in to clarify something:


This thread is more arguing for the freedom to play certain sub-races that one could easily convey in-game with the standard model. Such as Forest/Ice Trolls, Blackrock/Dragonmaw Orcs, Dark Iron/Wildhammer Dwarves, and whatever else would fall into that, possibly even Taunka as it's just an issue of the face (That's just my own view though).

This is not arguing for the freedom to play races that would be difficult to convey ICly through the player models. Things like Dire Trolls, Broken, and whatnot are too different in terms of the models and I agree, one must go through the CMC process for that character. We certainly do not want a lot of other races running around that should not be in great number.

But some of these, like Forest Trolls for instance, are indeed part of the Horde (Krom'gar's forces in Stonetalon have some Forest Troll members, for example, as well as the entirety of the Revantusk Tribe.) Ice Trolls might be trickier, as the only thing I can argue for them is the fact you could hire them as mercenaries in WC3. But the Dwarves (Excluding Frostborn as they are very few in number) and Orcs should be fine with their subraces, with the exception of Chaos Orcs (not Fel Orcs, there is a difference) and maybe Mag'har (even though there is shown throughout BC and even Wrath and Cata that their numbers are rather strong).

So, again, to clarify:

This is for the sake of being able to play conventional sub-races that one can convey through the Player Model and Emotes. It is Not for the sake of being able to play full races or sub-races that would be hard to convey in-game and through emotes.

Thanks.

[Grakor456]

These were taken in the Hinterlands---Vilebranch and Revantusk. One of these groups belongs to the Horde.

Edit: You can even see, in one of the pictures of the drummers, there's a bulky Revantusk standing right next to a skinny one.

I just double-checked: this is an emulator error, by all appearances. According to WoWHead all of the Revantusk trolls use the new model. All of the named ones in the village certainly do. The only thin trolls in Revantusk are ones that also have thicker models present. Judging from the display IDs, some of them are just improperly spawned/set. I think it's highly likely that the Vilebranch are in the same position, as WoWHead screencaps show them with the thicker models as well.

[Aethon]

with the exception of Chaos Orcs (not Fel Orcs , there is a difference)

Uhm. I was interested in Fel orcs after reading this thread, but unfortunately, wowwiki and wowpedia both says(or describes them as) they are the same thing.

http://www.wowpedia.org/Chaos_orc
"Chaos orcs (a.k.a. fel orcs)"

EDIT: Herpaderp, only if I would've read a lil bit further.

there seems to be some level of distinction between them

OT: I think it'd be nice to have 'small CMC's. Perhaps they could be handled via the special profile subforum?

[Harmonic]

Or like a CMC list of something likely to be approved quicker.

[FlyingSquirrel]

Or like a CMC list of something likely to be approved quicker.

Kretol was going to do something like this. However, it was quickly forgotten about.

http://www.conquestofthehorde.com/Thread-Unlikely-Races

[Harmonic]

Or like a CMC list of something likely to be approved quicker.

Kretol was going to do something like this. However, it was quickly forgotten about.

http://www.conquestofthehorde.com/Thread-Unlikely-Races

...That actually looks like the stark, stark opposite. :|

[FlyingSquirrel]

Okay, it only fits in a loose kind of way. Still, it does imply some sort of thought towards providing a list of what's good and not.

[FlyingSquirrel]

Double-post. However, I don't want to make a new thread and this fit well enough.

Were such a quicker CMC system to be made, would it apply to variant classes, such as CMCs for Wardens, Steamwarrior machines, Necromancer minions, etc?