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**Maulbane** · 04-09-2010, 02:19 AM

I cannot speak for Blizzard, but I've never agreed with priests being able to regenerate limbs, or grow things back. They're healers for a reason, they cure disease and sickness as well as close wounds, speeding up bodily processes like clotting and tissue repair, but bringing arms and legs back isn't in the vein of healing, when you think about it. Once a wound that has resulted in a lost limb has been cauterised or closed, it's not any of their business, there isn't anything to heal, and if they had the ability to conjure living tissue out of nothing, re-connect nerves and place said tissue in the precise formation, I think they'd be a prestige class.

**Bovel** · 04-09-2010, 02:22 AM

That is a hard feat even for trolls with a shadow hunter to help.

**Drak** · 04-09-2010, 02:24 AM

...point there, and I'm not gonna say "don't blame me!" because I did allow this without really doing research so it is partly my fault. So I retcon Drakus' arms being healed and just say his mech arms got a little faulty, thus he's repairing them. Fair enough?

Also, next time I hear someone say "The Light can restore anything..." I'll look up the Wiki or ask you guys first...

**Maulbane** · 04-09-2010, 02:29 AM

TBH I'm not singling you out or anything, but I am slightly disappointed in the way healing is conducted in this universe. It's also the reason I've never resurrected any of my characters, another thing I don't believe any low-to-med-level priest could do in a million years. I mean, it was a hero-only ability in WC3, and the only reason Priests truly have resurrection is as (who would've known) a game mechanic.

You also have to keep in mind that characters in WoW, from level 60 and onwards are the equivalent of lore characters, you can't really trust abilities in WoW because they're on the same level as hero abilities, because in World of Warcraft (at least PvE and PvP) you ARE the hero of this story.

**Drak** · 04-09-2010, 02:35 AM

I'm not saying you're singling me out, I'm thankfull for helping me out by saying limbs can't be healed :P And I agree that you/I/we ARE the Heros in RP, because RPing a commoner isn't really that fun it's nice the be unique and such. But I always thought healers could revive after a lot of training and a lot of effort, afterwards being really weak or just pass out.

**Maulbane** · 04-09-2010, 02:37 AM

Possibly, but I've always felt it defies the gravity of what death is supposed to be. Whatever the case, resurrection is possible, but I'd say definitely not by average priests, and high up ones would be out of juice for weeks. I mean, you are bringing back a soul in this situation, aint'cha?

**Drak** · 04-09-2010, 02:42 AM

Agreed, but only trained Healers.

**Ben** · 04-09-2010, 02:46 AM

Limbs can be reattatched, yes, of course they can. In modern day we can have entire head transplants, without magic! Magic (healing) is used to seal wound, so if you pressed the open wound to the lost part and applied the healing, then the two should simply refuse, and be as good as new in a short amount of time, varying for the part of course. Toes and the like would take about 20 minutes to be back to normal, a whole arm about a day. During this time they might flail about in odd moments as your brain registers they are there and working, despite having lost them. The character would also be in shock, you just lost your bloody arm, didn't you! Which would take from a day to a week to get over.

Metal limbs on WoW...well, we have shredders, but making an interface complex enough to be used by the brain and connecting the tendons is very very hard. Draenei super duper crystal arms are possible, because they have millenia of experience in war and will have some made, but will be incredibly expensive to non-Draenei, and above the bread line to say the least for a Draenei - not RPable really. So, prosthetic limbs: heaps of junk stuck on that you probably can't control, or do anything complex with, like have fingers that move. Excluding techno mages, because they can use magic to do that!

**Maulbane** · 04-09-2010, 02:50 AM

Ben Wrote:Limbs can be reattatched, yes, of course they can. In modern day we can have entire head transplants, without magic! Magic (healing) is used to seal wound, so if you pressed the open wound to the lost part and applied the healing, then the two should simply refuse, and be as good as new in a short amount of time, varying for the part of course. Toes and the like would take about 20 minutes to be back to normal, a whole arm about a day. During this time they might flail about in odd moments as your brain registers they are there and working, despite having lost them. The character would also be in shock, you just lost your bloody arm, didn't you! Which would take from a day to a week to get over.

I should have expanded upon my original statement. My scenario was that the arm was destroyed/gone, and in that case you wouldn't be able to replace the arm, but I agree with you whole-heartedly on the subject of fusing tissue together with magic.

**Drak** · 04-09-2010, 02:55 AM

Drakus' right arm: Blown to bits
His left: Leon ate it.

And I don't remember the NPC's name, but I know there's a lore character, a Goblin, with a mechanical arm. So mechanical limbs are possible.

**Maulbane** · 04-09-2010, 03:07 AM

Although that Goblin's a technomage, he can move his own ship with his mind.

But yes, mechanical limbs are possible, just don't expect very intricate muscular-like movements coming from something like that.

**BountyHunter** · 04-09-2010, 03:09 AM

Well, Tinkers in WC3 and WoW Lore can create arms which they connect to themselves and move them around as additional limbs. Seeing as they can do this, it shouldn't be too difficult to actually just put the limb where a limb was and have it move around at will.

**Drak** · 04-09-2010, 03:12 AM

Well, just to say what I did with Drakus' arms is that his right arm, yes strong but not OP, took a lot of time to build and 3 Engineers helped him. He had a priest and mage help attach it to him, which gave him A LOT of pein seeing as wires connecting to you and all that. Same with his left mech arm but his left's as strong as a normal arm.

**Ben** · 04-09-2010, 03:23 AM

On the subject of restoring limbs, without prosthetics, and without re-fusion, Trolls CAN do it. The leader of the Amani empire (Zul'jin? Not sure) was one of very few exceptions when he lost his arm while escaping Durnholde. However, I believe regeneration rates vary between Troll species with Forest Trolls being the best at it. So, on the concept of regeneration, should not Druids be able to bestow a slow regeneration of a character's limbs? Of course the entire process for an arm, since this seems to be the default example, would take around a month of daily casts to eventually heal up. The process would be excruciating and you would probably become more agressive due to the stress of controlling the pain to continue with aday to day life. Also, the area would have to be VERY well protected throughout the process, because it would be extremely weak. I'm not sure if this would be possible, but a priest could help speed up the process at certain points, such as when the arm to the elbow is regenerated, and nourish the nerves, tendons and muscles to grow to full size in a much shorter timescale. This would only be available at certain stages, and the Druid would still be needed to continue their daily casts. Also, a good supply of Trolls Blood potion (strong) could do the trick instead of the Druid, with daily doses.

This is all merely speculation, but Nature magic is different to Holy magic, so why would this not work?

**Maulbane** · 04-09-2010, 04:27 AM

Bounty-Hunter Wrote:Well, Tinkers in WC3 and WoW Lore can create arms which they connect to themselves and move them around as additional limbs. Seeing as they can do this, it shouldn't be too difficult to actually just put the limb where a limb was and have it move around at will.

Those are techno-mages, a prestige class, as opposed to tinkers, which is basically a term for a better engineer.

Drak Wrote:Well, just to say what I did with Drakus' arms is that his right arm, yes strong but not OP, took a lot of time to build and 3 Engineers helped him. He had a priest and mage help attach it to him, which gave him A LOT of pein seeing as wires connecting to you and all that. Same with his left mech arm but his left's as strong as a normal arm.

I suppose with five people, theoretically, you could do it, so yeah!

Ben Wrote:On the subject of restoring limbs, without prosthetics, and without re-fusion, Trolls CAN do it. The leader of the Amani empire (Zul'jin? Not sure) was one of very few exceptions when he lost his arm while escaping Durnholde. However, I believe regeneration rates vary between Troll species with Forest Trolls being the best at it. So, on the concept of regeneration, should not Druids be able to bestow a slow regeneration of a character's limbs? Of course the entire process for an arm, since this seems to be the default example, would take around a month of daily casts to eventually heal up. The process would be excruciating and you would probably become more agressive due to the stress of controlling the pain to continue with aday to day life. Also, the area would have to be VERY well protected throughout the process, because it would be extremely weak. I'm not sure if this would be possible, but a priest could help speed up the process at certain points, such as when the arm to the elbow is regenerated, and nourish the nerves, tendons and muscles to grow to full size in a much shorter timescale. This would only be available at certain stages, and the Druid would still be needed to continue their daily casts. Also, a good supply of Trolls Blood potion (strong) could do the trick instead of the Druid, with daily doses.

This is all merely speculation, but Nature magic is different to Holy magic, so why would this not work?

I believe Druids would be able to, but only the experienced ones, so about a moderate amount of skill. Also, the Troll you're talking about is Zul'in, yes, but he was actually in what is the Ghostlands now, which used to be the Amani Empire. The Elves captured him and he had to rip his own arm off to escape. And while it is true that Trolls have regenerative properties, limbs would take multiple months to years to regenerate, but it is possible to be sped up by external means.

I agree with the Druids being able to regenerate limbs, too, as long as it was constant casting for a long period of time, I suppose it could work.

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