Thrall's balls! They're everywhere...

[Mikain]

<Vol'jin contacts Thrall through his fire>

Vision of Thrall: Vol'jin. It is good to see you brother.

Vol'jin: Thrall! I am glad ya be well. Dere were rumors otherwise.

Vision of Thrall: Indeed. Someone did try to kill me, but that is not my greatest concern at the moment. The world itself calls for my aid.

Vol'jin: I must beg ya council, my friend. I can't be standin' by Garrosh while he be turnin' our people against each other for tha sake of war. My respect for ya does not extend to dis new Horde... I am tinkin' of leadin' my people away.

Vision of Thrall: Vol'jin, I chose Garrosh because he has the strength to lead our people through these trying times.

Vision of Thrall: For all my supposed wisdom, there have been moments that I've barely been able to hold the Horde together. The Wrathgate and Undercity displayed that clearly.

Vision of Thrall: The Horde cries for a hero of old. An orc of true blood that will bow to no human and bear no betrayal. A warrior that will make our people proud again, Garrosh can be that hero.

Vision of Thrall: I did not make this decision lightly, Vol'jin. I know our alliance will suffer for it. I know the horde will be irreversibly changed. But I made this choice with confidence that Garrosh is exactly what the Horde needs.

Vision of Thrall: I'm trusting you and the other leaders to not let this divide our people. You are stronger than that.

Vol'jin: I understand, brotha. I will tink on this and be troublin' ya no furtha. You have a world to be savin'.

Vision of Thrall: Throm'ka, old friend.

<Vision of Thrall fades>

Vol'jin: Dese will not be easy times, but I be suspectin' we will be stayin' with tha Horde for tha good of all.

Vol'jin: Thrall's words are true, as dey always be. The Horde is much more den a few old, stubborn leaders and a handful of heroes from Northrend. The people be cryin' Garrosh's name... at least for now.

Vol'jin: Still, I be hopin' Thrall will return to us one day. Tha future right now be lookin' very grim and bloody.

[Mikain]

Greatest orcish saying.

Spoiler:

[Harmonic]

So. Blizzard is trying to get us to like Garrosh because Thrall likes him or something? That's the sound of it. I'm of the opinion that Garrosh is a bumbling idiot, whose aspiration as War Chief is to push the envelope till there is an INTERNAL war.

Shit, maybe the Sin'Sholai thing isn't that far fetched, considering that Garrosh seems to be trying to push away from the races that Thrall worked so hard to make allies.

[Amerason]

Grom is a bro, the fact of character flaws makes him a good character in my opinion... Blizzard has too many Mary Sue's, about damn time they make one with flaws.

[Harmonic]

But these sorts of things that are being done, such as disallowing certain races in a city... that fosters hard feelings. And he killed a race's leader, still, even if it was a mistake.

In WoW? People have been killed for less. Garrosh and his family has a -bad- rep already. I'm just seeing righ tnow some obvious writing on the wall.

[Amerason]

Hellscream's? They've got the best rep on the block, I mean seriously... Grom is the HERO of the Orcish people. It's only natural that his son will mess up in the beginning and come out as a strong individual in the end. I'm a sucker for any of the Hellscream's personally.

Sure they've been killed for less, but Garrosh isn't a pushover it seems, besides, seems Vol'jin is trusting his buddy ol' Thrall on this, and Garrosh at least isn't entirely responsible for the death of Cairne.

All in all it seems like Garrosh is actually doing a good job on military side of the Horde, the political side will obviously suffer from it... the main problem likely coming from the Eastern Kingdoms with the Forsaken and Quel'thalas.

[Harmonic]

Uhh. Grom has his moments, yes, but ultimately he didn't listen to Thrall, injested demon blood, went insane and tried to KILL everyone, and only gained salvation by sacrificing himself to defeat the demon he'd originally fallen vicim too.

His bad choices led to his -death-.

[Mikain]

Don't judge a book by his beta cover. We still have yet to see what direction Garrosh is truly going.

[Harmonic]

Don't judge a book by his beta cover. We still have yet to see what direction Garrosh is truly going.

Honestly, I think with Varian being how he has been lately, all this is gearing for Warcraft 4, as well as whatever will be the new WoW.

And yes, Warcraft 4 is in the makings, from what I've read.

[Mikain]

That's exactly what I've been thinking. All hail wc4!

[Amerason]

It leaked that Warcraft 4 is essentially going to be used to fix the lore that WoW messed up.

[Harmonic]

Just imagine... all the races fighting against eachother, and having their own units? *Drool*

[Kaghuros]

Just imagine... all the races fighting against eachother, and having their own units? *Drool*

Just imagine... Paying for custom maps, and having no LAN support?

[Harmonic]

Just imagine... all the races fighting against eachother, and having their own units? *Drool*

Just imagine... Paying for custom maps, and having no LAN support?

When you said that, right there. Yeah, that was like taking away a child's present at christmas.

But yeah, you ARE right, that's how it's gonna be from now on.

[Nostra]

Just imagine... all the races fighting against eachother, and having their own units? *Drool*

Just imagine... Paying for custom maps, and having no LAN support?

When you said that, right there. Yeah, that was like taking away a child's present at christmas.

But yeah, you ARE right, that's how it's gonna be from now on.

For like a second there I was jumping on this chair in excitement. Damn it.

Sure hope there will be cracks so we can play it over Garena or somesuch instead.