A Feedback Thread

[Bingles]

dont leave

[Xigo]

... That's not really feedback!

[JVNemesis]

We should RP sometime.

You're a bro.

[Xigo]

... There will be blood.

[Aethon]

Hey Xigo. We should RP sometime....

I'll like the *bleep* outta your posts to bring yer green-nes back.

[Krilari]

Alright... I'll try my hand at this.

It's been a great deal of time since we've really sat and had a good roleplay. Though, I still remember some of the ones we had way back in the days of yore. Such as Dagrim and Duron talking about elven music in the Crater, or Andra and Xigo getting Drunk together, or hell, even when Andra would attempt to (mostly unsuccessfully) get her daughter Yui to meet some new people.

What I'm trying to say, I suppose, is that I understand your will to RP has faded a great deal and it's somewhat sad to hear that because I miss the RP we use to have all of the time. If this break gives you any of that will back, then I'd love to get the chance to hang around with you again.

[Xigo]

... I'd rather not hit 2,000 like that, thanks though. I like likes, but not like that.

[Aethon]

Hurr, you could've say that before...>.>


Edit: Durr, took 'em back. Tell me if ya want them back, I'm bored anyway. I have a couple of free time atm.

[Harmonic]

We should RP sometime.

You're a bro.

[Xigo]

You know what Rensin? You know what?

[Loxmardin]

You're a bro. We should RP more.

And stop going on Feedback sprees. It makes the rest of us look bad and feel like we should give you Feedback ... back. Fiendishly clever and well played, good sir.

You're great, Xigo. You have an amazing sense of humour and you can make people laugh with no effort at all, especially on TeamSpeak (even if people do get annoyed at times; you generally back down as soon as people express their frustrations). I understand this sort of attitude from you sometimes makes it hard for others to take you completely seriously, seeing how you sometimes just muck about lightheartedly and make subtle non-malicious jabs. I appreciate this behaviour from you, though, since it often lightens up the mood a lot. I guess I wish you would be a bit more confrontational at times, but... You've tackled the problems pointed out before so awesomely already. <3

You tend to gravitate towards tender female characters. Many of them have a sort of tragic quality to them or, like you've said yourself in the past, "kicked puppy" backgrounds and personalities. You pull off these kinds of characters in a very believable way, mind, but it's pretty evident that it's an area you're very comfortable in or at the very least find very interesting since you often wind up there.

That said, I love roleplaying with you and your characters. I know I might even chase after your characters in roleplays we partake in together, but that's because I find all of them very interesting and fun to play with. You have a very engaging style and your characters usually make it pretty obvious right from the start that they're so much more than what they show you at a first glance, making them intriguing in a "I must learn more!" kind of way. It makes you want to dig, get to know them and unravel all of their secrets. You're good at creating characters with great depths to them. You also don't make it easy. I love it.

... I couldn't imagine you playing an extremely shallow character.

Yui/Ellea lives.

[Reigen]

One order of honest Feedback, coming right up!

Trollish Attitude

Don't get me wrong, you crack me up more often than now, however sometimes I think you push the line of trolling from 'harmless fun' to 'what the heck are you doing Xigo oh my god stop' far too often. Sometimes it gets really awkward to speak over TS when you make certain comments. It's hard to put into words when this line is crossed, as for everyone it's different, but sometimes when you're asked to stop, you don't take it as a serious request and keep going. If someone says stop, and you're not sure if they're joking or not, it's really best to stop.

Discouragement

Like I pointed out in another thread: You are far, far, FAR too easily discouraged when it comes to getting a negative comment. Like in the above example, when you're told to stop, you tend to log off and seemingly get upset about it rather than actually change the subject. I'm not sure if this is because you feel that you didn't deserve the harsh word or if you think just logging off is better than apologizing and moving on or what. The same can be said for ideas that you've had. If one thing is said against them, you seem to automatically assume that your idea is hated and want to toss it out the window. I've not seen you try to address the concerns with a rebuttal or acknowledging the concerns, you just kind of throw them out because 'everyone hates it'.

General attitude

You -really- need to find a way to better control some of the things you say. The main example being what was said in the FH chat a while ago. The response given by you was...not welcome in the slightest. You know better than to react like that, but you did it anyway. That's something that really needs to stop. If you don't like something that's being said, there are more polite ways to request something to stop rather than just snapping at the person. You've done this with me plenty of times, so I know you can do it.

Entering/Exiting RP

So, one the rare occasions you do come out and RP, it's awesome! I love your characters and RPing with you is fun. However...as quick as you enter role play...you leave it just as fast if not faster. This bugs me a bit, considering it just feels like you're so bored that you just up and leave. It's normally rather sudden with no pre-warning or even an explanation as to why you're leaving. I wish you'd stick around more often when you join RP!

You also make a lot of socially shy characters where its like ripping a nail out of concret with your bare hands to get your characters to speak.

Communication

I dont mean this in a sense of "I CAN NEVER GET AHOLD OF THIS GUY". I more mean that...you don't really communicate to your friends when something is bothering you, and tend to kind of hold it in until you snap. [See general attitude]. Not much to say here beyond that I wish you'd open up to us more so if something is going on, we can try to help.

I've said pretty much most of the parts I think that can be improved on above. You're a bro, not even joking. Perhaps one of the few people I feel comfortable enough going to when I'm feeling upset or have the need to rant about something that bothers me. I'm glad that I know you, and I'm grateful that you started to get me onto TS where I met all the other awesome people I talk with daily on there now. I'd like to think of us as close friends, at least on my end we are.

Rock on, brother, and know I mean no ill-will to what I said above.

[Harmonic]

It's been a while since I've commented in here, and I want to preface everything and anything by saying my last post still holds true, I think you're a very good guy Xigo. You try your best, and want very much for people to like you and the things you do, which is something I relate to heavily, given that my own personality can be very similar.

Not to re-hash everything Reigen said above, however, but there are some things that I want to address with you as a friend.

First and foremost---the sensitivity. You are a person that loves to pick on people in a friendly way, often sharing your opinions in a blunt matter that may even rub against others in a way you don't intend---while not inherently a big deal, I've noticed more than once you become very discouraged very quickly when someone else points out something to you in the same manner. It sometimes comes off as you "Not being able to handle what you dish out", for lack of a better way to put it, and often times when you get offended it's not something people mean anything by, they are doing the same teasing you do to them. It's not something that's always against you, and certainly doesn't mean people dislike you---it's just how we all end up talking at some points.


The second part---roleplay. You're awesome to RP with. As a GM, you bring in a random element more often than not that can not only be fun, but fresh and different in many ways. That being said---it's rare to actually RP with you. All the "You're a bro, you should RP more" jokes aside---you really should RP more.

One of the bad parts though, that I notice, is that sometimes when you make characters or you do something IC, it can feel like soapboxing. What I mean by this is that it can feel as if the characters you've created have been created to show someone how to play a stereotype "right", or are using them as a tool to prove a point that you've talked about. I can recall several characters or RP events where you've done this, and while not ultimately a big deal it can retract from the entertainment of said RP and just come off as preachy.

The 'ttude. You've got one, and from one Irish man to another, I know it can be hard to control. You haven't really done anything lately, but in the past I've seen more than one thing where you let your anger get the best of you and you've used choice words or actions to express your feelings. When in the position you're in, it can come off as a sort of... tazer waving thing.

To make more sense from that statement, it can feel as if your anger feels like you're using your authority as a GM in a way that's threatening. YOU HAVEN'T DONE THIS LATELY, as I'll say again, but when you do this, it can be veeeery off-putting and somewhat frustrating, as it can be hard to approach a GM with this standpoint.




With anything negative out of the way, I just want to say this. You're a friend. I love RPing with you when say, you're just doin' stuff on Mundo, or as Killshi, and you're not doing it to prove a point or make a statement. I like having conversations with you, as you're a smart guy that has a firm grasp of things. We don't always see eye to eye, but please don't confuse that for me not getting along with you--even if we don't agree on everything I have nothing but respect for you, as I know you've done nothing but show respect for me.

Good luck, I hope this helps, and I hope you'll make my event dammit!

[Xigo]

Yeeaaah. I've taken note of my tendency to make 'X stereotype played right' in the past and am trying to avoid it now. And I know I get a bit too sensitive around the whole jokes. I don't really know why, but I'll try to work on that more.

Otherwise, I agree with everything you said, and I'll try to work on it. Thanks!

[Grakor456]

Entering/Exiting RP

So, one the rare occasions you do come out and RP, it's awesome! I love your characters and RPing with you is fun. However...as quick as you enter role play...you leave it just as fast if not faster. This bugs me a bit, considering it just feels like you're so bored that you just up and leave. It's normally rather sudden with no pre-warning or even an explanation as to why you're leaving. I wish you'd stick around more often when you join RP!

I'm going to quote this from Reigen, because I think it touches on something I'm about to say.

I've given you feedback before, so I won't repeat that. Others have said it, too...you can get discouraged easily, and all that. Instead I want to comment on something different.

You and I have RPed several times over the course of our respective stays on CotH. I remember my orcs (especially Balgarn and Thragash) talking to Dagrim several times. I remember Gunnar talking to Yui. But you know what my fondest memory of RPing with you (on the server, discounting P&P stuffs) actually is?

Skin Thieves 2. Because it forced you to stick around and commit to RPing Versich.

Admittedly this may be because you have rather inconsistent RP on the server as a whole, but it always felt to me that I couldn't ever really "connect" with most of your characters very well because their appearances were either brief or highly inconsistent. You have a huge stable of characters and encourage others to have the same. This isn't a bad thing in and of itself, but perhaps combined with your rather squirrelly RP times and how quickly you seem convinced to exit an RP, often makes more of your characters seem more shallow than they are.

Take your orc mage, for instance. I've seen him twice, both times for brief RPs. And he's a cool concept: orc wants to prove his intelligence (and the intelligence of his people by extension) to others by being refined and intellectual, but in the process ends up being a little too tryhard and gets embarrassed when he's called out on it. There's a lot you can do with that! And yet you were around on him so briefly that he instead just ended up being something of a one-off gag character, there to be the punchline of a joke at his expense. Perhaps that's not your intention, but that's how it ended up coming off.

And I know you can do a lot more. I loved Versich through Skin Thieves 2. I loved Theudis in our Warhammer games, as well as Rosalyn. When you commit to a character, that character turns out to be awesome and memorable. It's a shame, then, that so many of your characters don't stick around long enough to actually give an impression.

Your ability to have so many characters, one for every occasion, is a great skill for when you're DMing and the like. So, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that's necessarily a bad thing. I just want to see you commit more to some of those characters, and I want to see them RPed myself. Maybe it's just that I don't get exposed enough to some of your more popular characters, but that's where I'm seeing things from where I am.

On a related note: you're good at having so many different characters. You're good at having a great variety in those characters because you don't mind pushing at your comfort zone. But...please, remember that not everyone can, or wants to, do that. No need to try to slide them into making a character they don't really want to make.

But for all that criticism, don't think that I don't like your RP. As I said, I love RPing with you when I can pin you down to do it. I'm always up for playing one of your pen and paper games. And, honestly, you're one of my best friends on CotH.

You're a bro. We should RP more.