Does Assassin prestige require Spy or Infiltrator rank?

[JackofBlades]

...Coriv wouldn't plan to kill a "minor" character? The hell is a minor character?. It's not like he'd be able to assassinate the captain of the guard of the king or anything.

[McKnighter]

Well, when you talk about "throwing away their character for a week"... It's -nothing- like that.


One death to a combat-oriented character, as Wuvvums said, completely -screws- them over for life. Not to mention the physical and emotional scars that come with death. They have to change fighting styles, downgrade to lesser armors, or just stop fighting period. Death is not something to just treat as a 'one week timeout'. It can change an entire character, in one dramatic event.


And, as we talked about before over whispers, I highly doubt anyone will want their character to simply die, without a chance to fight back and kill their attacker. Even if you're an assassin, if they turn around as you're about to stab them, that assassin is about to get man-handled if he doesn't act fast.

A warrior could tear apart an assassin in a long term fight, even more if its an orc or tauren. Assassinations are not just jumping off a roof top, stabbing a man in the neck, and fleeing the scene. In most cases, something is going to go wrong, in which the assassin will lose the upper hand to make it an even fight. Might even lead to his death, the job isn't safe at all. You run the chance of getting caught and being sent to jail or death, every time.


Now, while it's all fine if it's planned out, understand that 'minor' characters can actually be important to someone else who wants them dead. You don't have to limit yourself to only killing the evil heads of the world. I mean, my assassin Tana,(I'm sort've treating her as an ex-Assassin, no bonuses or anything, might have her re-train once a prestige system comes out.) Would take on the smallest assassination jobs. Why? It's all about that gold.

Along with that, her tactics and style is very different than most are. She -cannot- stand toe-to-toe with someone. As I stated above, death is a b----, and she's died once already. Anyone could kill her if she lost the upper hand of a fight. Hell, she can die just by not taking care of her own body and fall to some illness she catches in Booty Bay!

I dunno where my rambling is taking me, but point is...

A. No one is too good to be killed. From your average thief to Tavren Black himself.

B. Death needs to stop being treated as a little vacation from a character. It's serious business.

C. ???

D. Profit.

[Jurkey]

Yeah, I understand McKnighter, but that's the part where Coriv is kind of restricted - he's not a "blade-for-hire" type, he's a guy who only kills for "justice". He wouldn't just let anyone pay him to kill an "innocent" person, or one who he doesn't find evil. Sure he would of course take on a job as "assassinate Redis, for fifty gold" or something along these lines, because both things would "benefit" him. He wouldn't, however, kill some sort of drug dealer for fifty gold, seeing as he's Chaotic Good, he doesn't believe that drug dealing is actually a "wrong" thing. It's your own choice.

The Chaotic Good part doesn't really make advantage of his prestige, seeing as it is very rare that he'll get to assassinate someone... Except if someone kidnaps him and corrupts his mind completly, turning him into "one of the bad guys".

@JackofBlades: When I say "minor character" I mean a character who actually hasn't done anything, that he believes is "evil". Like, he wouldn't assassinate someone for simply pickpocketting them, but he would rather spend his time planning an assassination on a guy like Redis. He goes after the "big fish", rather than the small fish - if you ruin the big fishes, the small fishes will cower in fear.

[JackofBlades]

Assassin's rarely have moral codes, that's...kind of why Assassins are, Assassins, killers, mostly for hire.

[Jurkey]

That's generalising, and being stereo-typical about stuff. Assassin is more his class than profession, like, his fighting style. You know, sometimes I put him on "trips" to Stormwind, Ironforge, etc. in a disguise and makes him live as an alter-ego, in periods that is too tough for him to handle. It will most likely happen when Redis, Barney, etc. begins to chase him.

Coriv is "kinda" for hire. He will fulfill the contract, if it has a good goal. Like, killing some sort of warlock, death knight, etc.

[JackofBlades]

A stereotype in real life is different from a stereotype in wow. What people fail to grasp is the stereotype is more often then not what Blizzard designed, meaning it's the law, for Blizzard is Azeroth's true god. Also wait, Coriv has two "identities"?.

Anyway, the point is here you say he only kills the evil, but Coriv himself seems, very...Chaotic Neutral. An Infiltrator and Spymaster are like assassins and spies for each side, an Assassin is generally a neutral non-good/evil non-discrimintory killer, why would you give Coriv a dark path prestige, I.E murdering, when he seems to, from what I read from how you described him, -hunt- all that is evil.

[Jurkey]

It's hard to put a finger on his alignment, but the point is that he is going very much towards Chaotic Good after Keak's and Lawl's death. He will kill someone if they know too much about him and his business, and they are going to leak it - because he believes that he cannot continue serving justice as long as his work is exposed. Besides, he wouldn't kill a guy like Cole, if he hadn't spotted him doing anything -evil-. He's Chaotic Good, so it means that he serves "good" after his own "morales", and not the law. Drugs ain't against "morales", only the law for example.

When I say "two identities", I mean that(like Zarquon said to me) be that romancing man, and on the other be a cold-blooded killer. Infact, he's in reality just very evil, but he hasn't faced it and uses this "justice" arguement to convince himself that what he is doing is right.

[JackofBlades]

Oh, you mean the "denied evil" kinda good, that's usually a set alignment with a denied alignment on top, I get what you mean now. But killing someone who he -believes- if I get you right, since, I doubt many would tell him they would reveal his secrets, that makes him a bad person, not a good one.