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[zeromanzx]

I throw out disrespect at certain people. These specific people have been giving me trouble since day one of my joining.

[BountyHunter]

If people are giving you trouble, the best option is to tell the GMs and collect logs of such 'Trouble'. We are here to help you. Confronting them with disrespect isn't a wise option.

[CappnRob]

I throw out disrespect at certain people. These specific people have been giving me trouble since day one of my joining.

Turn the other cheek, mang. Turn the other cheek.

Anyway, I mostly agree with you on the issue of "off topic", although I do think related issues can be discussed and still be considered "on topic". On the subject of the child whistles, the IC abuse towards children it would "promote" is technically related, even if it isn't the main issue at hand.

[zeromanzx]

I am a sad depressed little man.

I know I too get angry at people easily and can often do exactly what I don't like others doing.

I am sorry for this, but just certain people have given me a lot of trouble and no one ever defends me or does anything about it.

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I throw out disrespect at certain people. These specific people have been giving me trouble since day one of my joining.

Turn the other cheek, mang. Turn the other cheek.

Anyway, I mostly agree with you on the issue of "off topic", although I do think related issues can be discussed and still be considered "on topic". On the subject of the child whistles, the IC abuse towards children it would "promote" is technically related, even if it isn't the main issue at hand.

And yes I understand both subjects involved the children in question, but the whistle would not have prevented or promoted it. That is just why I think it was off topic. Because it was more talking about the problems with having a child, rather than discussing the whistles.

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If people are giving you trouble, the best option is to tell the GMs and collect logs of such 'Trouble'. We are here to help you. Confronting them with disrespect isn't a wise option.

I find it hard to report people especially when they are usually good friends with GMs. Like yesterday, sorry to say your name, but Cressy got onto me for saying an example of a child dieing, and said not to do that because it was not funny, when in fact a GM had just a few posts earlier done the same thing. But I was the only one she had a problem doing it with apparently.

[Rigley]

I throw out disrespect at certain people. These specific people have been giving me trouble since day one of my joining.

While I won't say much here, I will say that just because you feel someone is being rude doesn't mean you're obliged to be rude back. While I understand wanting respect you have to give that to other people as well, even if they do disagree with you.

EDIT: And really? Report people you think are causing trouble, especially those you perceive to be friends of GMs. If it helps any report them to multiple GMs, not just one.

[Xigo]

Especially you Cressy, need to read.

This is absolutely unnecessary.

Look, I'm guilty of attacking other people in the past myself. However, avoid singling someone out with an insult of all things.

If this thread is going to end up being people pointing fingers at others and saying 'it's all your fault', then I will close this very quickly. Be polite. And as Renae said, there comes a point where you should solve your problems behind closed doors (or you know, just end the thread). I certainly don't want to see a thread of people just bickering at eachother. I've been a part of these threads in the past, and I can honestly look back on my involvement with shame. Why? Because I had to put everyone else through my crud too.

CotH is not so much a 'random private server' in my mind. Being rude to others will get you nowhere because despite our differences, we are a relatively tight-knit community. A lot of us are good friends with eachother, and while we can get passionate about things (I know I can, and I'm really sorry about those who are the victims of these outbursts), we ultimately have to be respectful to one another. Why? Because we're not really anonymous here. Account names are known, and generally you end up roleplaying with others a lot, even by accident. So threads where 'raaaage' starts popping in are closed, because ultimately it's just going to end up bringing drama to the server as a whole. See, it's not like only one little group of the server gets dramatic like on WoW retail or something. We're all connected to one another in some way shape or form through roleplay and OOC communication. So everyone has an opinion on things. And when all these opinions start clashing together in a thread, that's when things get messy. So we tend to close these threads before the big 'smash' starts, because it really just further pushes us away from one another.

My rule of thumb these days is 'if you are getting passionate about a post, reread it. Maybe it doesn't have to be said'.

(I personally think giving people the whistles is just asking for terrible things to happen to children. And unlike 'racism' and 'sexism' where it's sort of built into the setting and can be excused, not everyone wants to witness children being tortured or anything because, hey, I don't see that kind of stuff as integral to the Warcraft universe.

I assure you, if we had child characters being playable a good number of them would end up being slaves or something else, and then things would just get dramatic. If you want to include them in your RP, sure. Go for it. But understand that others might not want them to be present.

... Plus it's sort of hard to roleplay a child correctly anyway. I've seen few people do it.)

[... I guess this post was sort of off-topic. But eh.]

[Wuvvums]

Believe it or not the GM staff as a whole does not play favorites. You should not let this notion discourage you from reporting issues to the GM staff.

[zeromanzx]

[quote='Xigo' pid='211230' dateline='1318953845']
[quote]This is absolutely unnecessary.[/quote]

I know it sounded rude especially how I put it, but I was only trying to point out that she had turned on me accusing me of doing what I was complaining about, when I had already stated that I do that.

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I just feel like everyone is against me because I am newer than most, and thus people look down on me thinking things like:

"He does not know the rules"
"He has not had time to get to know people"

I kinda feel like people make me out to be a bad guy just by looking at my posts.
I know I can get angry on here very easily and I often express it as such, but no one knows me enough to officially label me as the bad guy just because I get angry a lot.

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But people will often quote my recent posts, that at that time, I would not even remember posting. Most times that I get angry and post is a "Spur of the moment" Type deal, and I don't really mean to do it. It is just my fast reaction to feeling put down. And I often don't think things through.

[Xigo]

That is by no means the case. It's simply things like this that tend to earn the ire of others.

While it's nice to stand your ground on a subject, there comes a point where you should ultimately just back down. Allow me to make a comparison.

The palm tree which bends in the storm survive.

The one that stands firm is thrown to the ground by the wind.

Be willing to bend with the rest of the server, and be willing to understand their points of view.

[zeromanzx]

I just want to say I am sorry for all the things I have said in the past, and I know I can't stop myself from doing it again so I hope you all will accept an apology for it now. I don't mean to snap on people, But I guess that is why it is called snapping.

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I just want to be friends with everyone.

I know I have not really done such a great job of that so far hehe.....

[Xigo]

It's cool.

[Cressy]

I will be honest. I am confused as f**k.

I don't think I have responded to you more than two or three times, Zero. I don't even know who you are, and I am always being rude? What. I was explaining why Kretol did not want children whistles being tossed out. I was not hostile or rude, I was irritated about you nonchalantly throwing out a comment about kids dying, because..Oh em gee, I am a parent and find that it is not something you just say.

Sorry if you find what I say rude, but yeah, it wasn't meant to be. Don't read everything everyone says as a personal attack, yo.

As a sidenote: You would know if I was intentionally being rude. Ask Xigo. :3

[Rigley]

I will be honest. I am confused as f**k.

I don't think I have responded to you more than two or three times, Zero. I don't even know who you are, and I am always being rude? What. I was explaining why Kretol did not want children whistles being tossed out. I was not hostile or rude, I was irritated about you nonchalantly throwing out a comment about kids dying, because..Oh em gee, I am a parent and find that it is not something you just say.

Sorry if you find what I say rude, but yeah, it wasn't meant to be. Don't read everything everyone says as a personal attack, yo.

As a sidenote: You would know if I was intentionally being rude. Ask Xigo. :3

This topic has really already been concluded. I don't see any reason to push it further, or incite it more.

[zeromanzx]

Where you said:

" I was irritated about you nonchalantly throwing out a comment about kids dying, because..Oh em gee, I am a parent and find that it is not something you just say"

I was literally saying that it was a bad thing, that is not unchalantly.

The part I was mad about was that you got mad at me, but not at Rosencrat who had just done the same thing.

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I didn't mean it as an attack either, I was just saying if you get mad at one person for something get mad at the others who do the same thing.

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I know, I am often a very complicated person :O

[Krent]

So it begins.