What we need ICly to be a Death Knight?

[Beltharean]

I remember reading somewhere that the Ebon Blade are finding soldiers on the battle field, and slowly creating more and more death knights to bolster their forces. I'll try and find a definite source, but in the mean time... I assume that's a no no even so?

Yep. If you find the source, I'll hop on the bandwagon and say it's okay, but I've yet to see anything saying that there are any DKs beyond 3rd Gen.

Argh... I can't seem to find it. Maybe it was custom lore on an old server or something of that nature. BUT, it seems that a forsaken death knight by definition doesn't necessarily have to have been released at The Battle for Light's Hope. A human is still going to turn into a human DK, BUT a scourge human DK released up in northrend (there are other (presumably) third gen DK's up there) would/could become a forsaken DK.

If a common undead can be released at any moment, then a member of their ranks who is a bit higher up in stature should be able to as well, wouldn't you agree? But, that's just like, my opinion man.

[Walrus]

Oh hey, I'm in this thread.
Yes, I did bring back Walluce as a DK, however I waited near a real life year to do it, as well as wrote a long story to account for the change and service to the Lich King. When I did it I was not a GM and also had to request approval.

That being said if we are at the agreement that such is not allowed I will happily retcon the matter. As a GM I am not above the rules.

[Azheron]

I'd say however, that anyone that does that
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Oh hey, I'm in this thread.
Yes, I did bring back Walluce as a DK, however I waited near a real life year to do it, as well as wrote a long story to account for the change and service to the Lich King. When I did it I was not a GM and also had to request approval.

That being said if we are at the agreement that such is not allowed I will happily retcon the matter. As a GM I am not above the rules.

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Can have a resurrected Death Knight. Holy crap.

[Harmonic]

I'd say however, that anyone that does that
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Oh hey, I'm in this thread.
Yes, I did bring back Walluce as a DK, however I waited near a real life year to do it, as well as wrote a long story to account for the change and service to the Lich King. When I did it I was not a GM and also had to request approval.

That being said if we are at the agreement that such is not allowed I will happily retcon the matter. As a GM I am not above the rules.

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Can have a resurrected Death Knight. Holy crap.

Edit: I read that wrong. While yeah, that's a lot of work... it's still something we should discuss. Because well, it's sort of a lore bork, which we've done a lot. Yes, we GMs tend to ignore some things, accidently. ;>.>

This is something I wanna discuss with the other GMs before we do this sort of stuff.

[KarstAvenger]

Living Deathknights are fine, but there can't be ones that aren't third Gen, meaning released from the Lich King's will at battle of Light's Hope, or whatever it was called.

To show you guys what Rensin means in the differences in generations, I have decided to copy/paste the following information from the Death Knight article on WoW Wiki.

1st Generation: Death Knights of the Old Horde

A first generation death knight was essentially the soul, knowledge, memory, and personality of an orc warlock that was imbued into the reanimated corpse of a fallen knight of Azeroth. Unlike modern death knights of the Scourge, these ghoulish fiends were not battle hardened warriors; they were insidious necromancers who possessed superior intellect and tremendous magical power. They often favored the use of terror tactics and reanimated the corpses of enemy soldiers who fell in battle to serve them as mindless undead minions. These skeletal soldiers served to shield the death knight from enemy attacks, allowing them to unleash their deadly eldritch sorcery from range.


2nd Generation: Death Knights of the Scourge

A second generation death knight were amongst a group of fallen paladins whose souls were twisted and bound to the will of the Frozen Throne [2]. Unlike death knights of the Old Horde, modern death knights are not limited to their use of ranged spell casting abilities. These former paladins are exceptionally skilled in the arts of physical combat. They retained the ability to cast death coil, increase allied movement, as well as raise the dead. They also gained the capacity to cast Death Pact to destroy a minion in return for health. In terms of relative strengths, modern death knights are more versatile than their first generation predecessors due to their ability to effectively engage enemies in the physical rigors of close quarters combat. However, both generations are equally destructive and terrifying to engage in the field of battle.


3rd Generation: The Will To Fight Against All Odds

The third generation of death knights were part of a collaborated effort on the part of the Lich King to bolster Acherus: The Ebon Hold's legions before marching on New Avalon. However, these death knights only constituted a portion of the death knights under the Lich King's command. Knights of the Ebon Blade had the unique opportunity to assist in the culling of the Scarlet Crusade from the Plaguelands.

In Wrath of the Lich King expansion the death knights are freed from the will of the Lich King and ally themselves with their respective, former factions. Working closely under the guiding blade of Highlord Darion Mograine and the bolstered Argent Crusade, these freed death knights have begun their march to Northrend.

Death knights in Wrath of the Lich King are a new class mirroring their previous incarnations. While boasting powerful melee abilities, as well as plate armor, these warriors supplement their strength with dark magic. Calling upon a rune system of magic, the death knight may summon unholy, blood, and frost spells.

So what Rensin means by saying "there can't be ones that aren't third Gen," is that if your Death Knight was before the Third Generation Death Knights, then you must redo their whole past to where they are Third Generation. This means that they must be Death Knights who fought in the Battle for Light's Hope.

I hope this helps, and if I'm wrong about anything, feel free to /slap me in-game.

[Harmonic]

It does. There is no mention of a "fourth" generation, and the other Gens have died off or are too powerful.

[KarstAvenger]

It does. There is no mention of a "fourth" generation, and the other Gens have died off or are too powerful.

Glad to help, in that case.