What's this about a 'Restart'? (AKA "Topic of Interest")

[Anski]

For those of you who don't know, the Sin'sholai plot killed off a handful of Lore characters and ended up destroying the Refugee Alliance Point in the Arathi Highlands. The Gnomish Special Forces in Gnomergan and the Echo assault would have to be retconned because both Gnomergan and the Echo Isles are opening in Cataclysm. There are a good number of you that joined after all, or most of this, and don't know how much of the world was just messed up by our plots. Not exactly in a bad way, it was just changed.

Pharaoh is pretty much spot on in explaining it. People who begin to freak out about it and panic like it's the end of the server are going to be the most upset. You must take it easy, and WORK WITH US instead of running off and doing your own thing like resubmitting character profiles the day Cata comes out or causing more chaos. Much like traffic directors in event of catastrophe, we are directing the people trying to get out of being lost to darkness, and those who decide to jump the fence and take off in their own direction will more than likely be consumed in grief.

[Harmonic]

Maybe it's just me, but I'm the type of guy to throw out bread when it gets stale. If you catch my drift.

[Terant]

The Gnomish Special Forces in Gnomergan and the Echo assault would have to be retconned because both Gnomergan and the Echo Isles are opening in Cataclysm.

Maybe it's just me, but I still fail to see how Blizzard going along with exactly what we did means we should retcon it :|. If anything, we should keep those events -because- they're so similar to what Blizzard is doing.

As for the slightly more on-topic stuff about losing Characters... I copied/pasted my Character Profiles into a Word Document. I do not plan on keeping most of my characters, and the ones I do plan on keeping I'm not going to flood the Profile forum with right away. Just take it easy, guys. It's not a big deal to wait a few weeks to get your characters leveled again.

[Grayl]

It's a definite yes. Projected to happen in early July or somewhere thereabouts.

Fantastic. Trinity is utterly brilliant, and even though a lot of people will be losing a heck of a lot of work on their characters, they'll be happier in the end, I'm sure of it.

Trinity does come with a few errors though, like all emulator databases do. One I noticed was that the standard wildlife mobs in Hillsbrad do something like 4.2x damage for no reason, though you only need to do a quick change in the database to fix it. If I ever see any bugs and stuff I'll be sure to post them to get 'em rectified ASAP. Un-including all the extras that have been up into the CotH server, even the base TrinityCore emulator/database is much more stable!

I can't wait for the "restart".

[Velasco]

well i had a big long note written but tapatalk client on my phone killed it. So im trying again.

Between consoling my grieving gf, and eating 'lunch' at work tonight... I have been reading this thread. Many months ago when i started here the rumours and innuendo were being whispered about this reset. I was totally bummed. Really thought... Whats the point?

Truth be told... Its given birth to at least 3 new characters that will get profiles.. Because i said to myself... Why the fel not? If everything is going anyway... What do i have to lose? The answer? Nothing. Gear... I tokened for all my cool stuff. So i can easily token again. Yes... Kinda a bummer losing my engineering. Who cares? It was fun. Will be doing it again. The random awesome treasures i have now and want again? I have Wowhead to tell me their item number and where they drop in the world. And with CotH's increased drop chances... Perfect thing to do in 'off peak' hours when you are waiting for your friends to log in. Plus... It makes for fun rp for my treasure hunting characters.

What do i have to gain? Everything!
What do i mean? For starters i joined a lot of my favorite characters into rp i wouldnt have before. (here's looking at you Knife, and Nova) put them into situations i wouldnt have before because i OOCly wouldnt want them to die. Even if ICly they would do these things. In the last month alone more of my characters have joined into awesome story lines. I am back on form from when all my AcornRack and AvidGamers rp forums died. And i actually think i have seen an improvement from my previous best.

So i say now... Go out.. Get your feet- fel... All of you wet. By all means work on getting profiles approved now. Even my approved chars only need a line removed from their profiles (re sin sholai which i wasnt even around for).

The only problem i will have is making my characters who wont change except in appearance, stories mesh with major characters (nova for example), who are going to be revamped or not even exist. This is where people should finish off current storylines... And prepare for the gobbo-clysm!

There is more but i dont remember it. Right now.
Bring on the reset! Sooner the better!

[ThePharaoh]

What I -am- confused about is that, not everyone -has- to retcon their character. For instance, Jidaeo was involved with Sin'Sholai, it was a large part of his history as he progressed, scrapping the char. But for people unaffiliated to the with Sin'Sholai event that he interacted with, what do they do? Say a person doesn't have to re-roll his/her character and doesn't want to. But say their character was influenced by a character who was being retconned? Is that open to the player individually, to pick memories from CoTLk and apply them to restart CoTH as one canon life span?

Or is simply copy pasting your char from CoTLK to restart CoTH Is basically a clone of your character core traits and personallity placed on a new time line? Does that make sense?

Anybody have an answer to this? OR thoughts, or was it already previously discussed and explained?

Another question I have is reguarding the chars who are going to be wiped. Should we make a thread of characters who aren't the same to let people who are keeping their chars a heads up or should that just be done on a person to person basis?

[Piroska]

Kret mentioned this in the very first post of his Migrating Characters thread:

You will need to ensure the character does not mention any ret-conned events, as mentioned in the Information Thread! You are free to include/add notable events that may have happened in your characters' storylines here on CotH in your history, but if it involves other characters, be sure to collaborate with them first to make sure those other characters will still exist!

I'm a big supporter of common sense. My friends always tease me because they say that common sense isn't that common; in fact, it can sometimes be considered a super power because of how rarely it is applied. However, I generally feel that the most simple and appropriate solution can be determined by each and every person and then applied.

In this situation, I don't think that the staff members need to hold the community's hands. If a person feels that his character has been influential on another character and that that character won't be around following the wipe, yes, he probably should inform people. Pick whatever option will allow you to reach the most amount of people and will genuinely help them. If you know that they don't frequent the forums, posting a thread isn't going to work. If it's only one or two people, a simple heads up should suffice. Use the appropriate response.

[CallMeMelissa]

Do we have a date for the restart?

[Grayl]

Do we have a date for the restart?

From what I've read, it's literally "ASAP". I think the ETA is either this or next month, but you never really know as it can be a real pain to get server emulators up and running properly. I'm sure they'll need to test the server load, too, before making it the official CotH server.

As for a specific date, it can't really be said. The sooner the better, though, I say.

I don't really want to make a character before the restart, so I don't think I'm going to bother. I don't mind waiting; this server is worth waiting for.

Bring on the restart!

[CallMeMelissa]

And how much down-time will the restart involve? A few hours? Days? Weeks? Months?

M xx

[Grayl]

And how much down-time will the restart involve? A few hours? Days? Weeks? Months?

M xx

I can't really give a real estimate as I'm as new as you are Melissa, but from what I know about server compiling, I would say a few hours.

How I think it'll go down: The server will be compiled and internally tested for a few weeks with some of the GMs and stuff. Once internal testing is done, they might make it open for a day or two to stress the server load. If all goes well, then I guess it'll up and running in a few hours. If not, then I guess we'll have to wait a few days and/or keep stress testing until it all goes well.

The current CotH server won't be put down until the new one is 100% ready, I should think.

If I'm wrong, please correct me almighty admins of CotH :P

[Maxwell]

I for one welcome our new alien overlords. I am quite fond of this place for all the roleplay it has given me but for the last few months (I don't remember how many) I haven't been here at all. I keep saying "Yeah, I'm gonna come back once I get around to x or y" but I haven't. This seems like a great opportunity to make a return to the server.

Part of the reason I've felt unable to come back is my detachment from the server events and plots and I've felt awkward trying to climb into the hotpot so to speak without knowing what's been going on (Like seriously, Dilly is a GM now, wut).

Anyway, I've organised to bum WoW off of a resident of the server to circumnavigate the massive, massive download that is WoW. I'll be staying tuned for this.