The Pharaoh's Corner.

[ThePharaoh]

Yeah this was open to everyone to follow and list there characters in somewhat the same manner and describe what shards of their personality or soul they share.

[Cressy]

Oh, lawd.

So, all of my characters have little...movements that I do; constantly playing with hair, rolling eyes, quirking eyebrows, pinching their lips together, scrunching up their nose. I unintentionally do it..But it happens.

Some of the character's are based off of how I was in the past...

Jean- I went through this phase during junior high where I used to get into fights for the fun of it; guys, girls, men, whatever. It honestly didn't matter, I loved it. KIND OF SICK, I KNOW.

Sprinkles- There was a time where I had the short, pink, pixie-styled hair cut. I was really out there, and always baking. I went through a cupcake craze...like to the point I had a cupcake tattooed behind my ear.

Chaundre- Well, how her child comes first. She would kill for her child if she knew or thought she was in harm's way.

Ophice- Well... The fact that she enjoys alone time, or enjoys being alone more than with people. Also the whole concept of believing people easily, even though she has learned in the past not to.

I think that is it.

[Spiralin]

Oh well, that's strange, I go out of my way to make my characters as much unlike me as possible, as I find it.... More fun? To roleplay as someone unlike me and put myself in their shoes, then to roleplay with something similar to me.

[ThePharaoh]

Topic 5: Nit-Picking

People Nit pick so much, it's really annoying. I don't know what happened to this place but its become quite ridiculous maybe it was always this way and I didn't realize but whatever. I've seen people in GMI that don't RP but just criticize every character that walk by that they don't know. Questioning their validity to be able to play here. If that's the case...If that's how all you die hard lore fiends are.

Then just make a guide for every class and say this is what, and how you have to play it, because preference is no longer an issue. It doesn't matter if this is enjoyable, or reflective of what interests you. It's about apeasing not the bad RPers but the so called Glorified ones who just talk shit about lore. Lets be honest and nobody here will admit this, wow lore is fucking ridiculous. Panda people, bird people, walrus people, wtf?! They talk about cussing well we shouldn't say Hell or damn. because due to linguistics some words wouldn't exist due to their origin not being existant in this world (which is true) but to do that we would have to pretty much create a new language. English being the primary language of the server along with having so many languages at the core of it just makes it impossible. Language is used to convey what the person is saying. They aren't saying these words literally but something -like- this. But we have people in wc3 using this language all the time, plus theres Hellfire Pennesula where would HEllfire come from if it has nothing to do with the religious derivative? -Some people- are here to RP adventures and have fun and some people are here to recreate life because they have noneoutside of this digital world.

I understand immersion and it's importance. But we have so much more going on, what about the BE's who love Ne's what about the stereotypes of gnomes orcs, elves, and draenei? Should we have the GM's and lore nazi's RP our chars for us? Why go through more work? Special profiles stay stacked up, nobody looks at them. Not sure if the forum admins will help about that but the previous system hsa been so long I have just tokened to 50 to call it a day.

If we used all this energy to cometogether and lead an interesting event we'd be on the winning path. But all we will do is call one out for being different and tell them they should be like this or like that. Hmm Sound familiar? I used to come here to get away from hypocrits, bigotry and close minded people. As I said I understand immersion but when you have chars breaking the 4th wall and not adhereing to the lore we have established. Same people who say players who are criticizing other players are the same ones hanging out in Booty Bay and the like. Just like you can't tell a person where to RP you shouldn't tell them how, as long as they aren't doing something pretty outrageous. I mean aren't we here to have fun and RP? Really? I didn't come here for a fantasy relationship or a what would it like to hang out in a bar RP. But I don't take anything away from those who do. There are people who don't like the Ebon Blade hunting Rogue Dks because nothign sepcifically says they would. But due to fan fiction they are still hunted. I think its a good idea but in all honesty it's sort of the same argument. Fan fiction vs esstablished lore, in a game that was made for mass enjoyment and entertainment. You can 't look at wow for details and try to come up with a cohesive story. I posted my response of feelings here as people confuse my opinion as "Controversial" and angry. Excuse the spell check fail. I also don't mean this to come off as an angry rant. I am not upset, I am not trying to offend anyone nor am I trying to instigate. I am not being defensive as Jid is a dead DK. But people are forgetting why we're here and people are becoming cocky about RP which is pathetic.

TL;DR Lore Nazi's ruin RP. Especially when it's fan fiction.

[Wuvvums]

They talk about cussing well we shouldn't say Hell or damn. because due to linguistics some words wouldn't exist due to their origin not being existant in this world (which is true) but to do that we would have to pretty much create a new language. English being the primary language of the server along with having so many languages at the core of it just makes it impossible. Language is used to convey what the person is saying. They aren't saying these words literally but something -like- this. But we have people in wc3 using this language all the time, plus theres Hellfire Pennesula where would HEllfire come from if it has nothing to do with the religious derivative?

Yeah, I don't like it when people get nitpicky. I've been lectured over using the word "dinosaur" in general, not even in rp. Someone wanted to tell me that there's no instance of "dinosaur" being in WoW's language. This was also when I was new to the server and thinking... "if WoW has fucking dinosaurs then I'm going to use dinosaur dammit."

Special profiles stay stacked up, nobody looks at them. Not sure if the forum admins will help about that but the previous system hsa been so long I have just tokened to 50 to call it a day.

We have quite a few new GMs to check over profiles. I also think that there's a misconception over special profiles themselves. Special doesn't mean "it's going to take weeks and weeks," it just means that a GM has to look over the details and see if it's fitting. I also think the more you talk with GMs about your profile before you make it the more likely they will to pass it. I think some don't check the profiles because people aren't pointing out what makes it special, and you can't tell from reading the history, and the GMs are hesitant to approve something because of it.

As I said I understand immersion but when you have chars breaking the 4th wall and not adhereing to the lore we have established. Same people who say players who are criticizing other players are the same ones hanging out in Booty Bay and the like.

Yeah, I can relate to this. Tried to find some rp on a light-hearted, joking, humorous character and people were talking about how they wanted to stab the screen in hopes that it would somehow hurt me OOCly. Needless to say they also didn't take up our offers for any events. I had a plan for some events on the character and had fun with him but people were too upset at the character.

TL;DR Lore Nazi's ruin RP. Especially when it's fan fiction.

For future reference the term is "fanon" which rhymes with canon and is much easier to type out :3

[flammos200]

Here's how I counter nit-pickers: I bring more Lore into question.

Someone says 'God!' and gets picked on for it? Well, did you know that between the first and second Wars, people did in fact refer to the Light as 'God'? It fell out of use as the Light turned more from religion to philosophy, effectively turning Paladins into jedi, but... Old-fashioned people like the Scarlet Crusade still say 'God'.

'Hell!'? Easy. Even Uther says somethin' 'bout how the Horde will be damned to Hell during the early Second War, and all throughout the First one. /smirk.

'Angel'? Yes, we can. There're numerous depictions of angelic beings, even on the roof of Wyrmrest Temple. Moreover, the ability description for the Templar's 'Divine Ascension' is that it transforms the user into an angelic version of themselves, infusing them with Light and turning their skin, eyelashes, nails and hair into metal.
Couple that with wings of Light...
And you have your Angel.

As regards Special Profiles. I've only had one of 'em, and it took about a month to approve. Still, it took less than my first normal profile, which took almost two months. So, things're improving. And the newer gee-emms generally try to pay attention to the S.P. forum.

On people criticizing others... Now, while I don't disagree with the goals, I do disagree with the means.

What I mean by that, is that while I enjoy it when immersion happens and dislike it when some lore-breaker waltzes in with his Draenei girlfriend, ending in facepalms five ways to sundown on my part, said person should be approached without attacking the person behind the screen. I can't stress this enough: Never, ever criticize the players. Instead, examine the characters they're playing, if they really bother you, and just talk to them about it in a friendly, or at least neutral manner.

Besides, if someone bothers another, they don't really have to RP with them. Not just that, but they can simply state that it's Private RP, if they don't want others involved.

WoW's general story is... basically, in a nutshell... Loads of different people band together under a single banner, setting aside their old hatreds, and kick the collective behinds of the Burning Legion, reforging a magic Titan sword to kill the Big Bad(Sargeras) with.
...Pretty much just that. It's always like that. And you have to remember that while details matter, the bigger picture matters more, in my opinion, and though at present the situation's somewhat nuanced, at the end of it all, it'll be black 'n white.

The fact that there are so many different people and cultures is more to play towards the 'In spite of how different we all are, we can band together and fight this threat that is poised to devour the entire universe!'-motif. It's all just storytelling to put emphasis on the symbol of people setting aside their differences and working together.
...If you really take a break 'n look at it, it's basically, people all over the Universe fighting Space Demons.

Why does the Scourge exist? Demons.
Why does the Alliance fight the Horde? Demons.
Why do Night Elves have such an uptight society? Demons.
-Everything- evil can be traced back to either Demons or Old Gods.

TL;DR: Lore's supposed to make RP more fun. Allow it to be so.

[ThePharaoh]

Topic 6: The CoTH-Universe


This is something I've been trying to do for sometime. At first It really wasn't my intention because I figured it didn't matter. But the longer I've been here I've understood that the community is one of our strengths.

'Well, Ro' what are you talking about?"

The CoTH universe idea is named after The Marvel Universe or the DC Universe. I Can't speak for DC because I don't really care for them as much, but Marvel in the beginning used to be a series of comic stories independant of each other. Just as Spider-man, X-men and fantastic four were under the same publishing company, they never interacted, or were even considered to be in the same 'New york' state the chars were all based in. It wasn't until I want to say a Hulk Crossover, I could be wrong that marvel realized it would be awesome to have their chars all under an umbrella world. Having spider-man's story effect the x-men's story. This is something that is done here on CoTH but on a small level, and limited only to who we RP with and feel comfortable with. I propose to those on CoTH's roster from those leading storylines, and active guilds, to those who are hungry to start RP and change things, that we come together.

Apheretos was -extremely- close to doing this, and think we should assist him. But our stories wouldn't have to mesh to the point where they're one mass book. And we wont have to really take elements from one story that we don't necessarily like. For instance, Spider-man's story is still his own, some of his vilians and problems are unique to him and wouldn't even effect the others around him unless they chose to get involved. But sometimes a threat approaches over all stories and their reactions lead them to come together. Or perhaps two characters meet briefly, just for a simple cross over, to introduce them so later they can join in the fray if things happen. As I said this to an extent happens, but you have others who are very private with RP ( which is fine ) making up storylines that only exist to their characters and is even avoided when others are around. To each is own but that seems like a waste.

And there are some of us, (myself included) who don't speak to others simply because we just don't know them. But perhaps RP could grow if we reach out. I will do this in the future, so don't be caught off guard if I send you a PM asking for RP.


For instance, Bovel has an excellent way of storytelling and keeping RP organized and together, probably one of the best ways I've ever seen it done. I tell him this quite often, I wanted to incorporate his storyline into one of my own, not -mix- the elements or change how either of us do things, but intersect the story like a double helix before our stories would be independant again. Does that make sense? But due to that interaction our stories ( depending on the people ) could come and go freely within each other, if the two players leading the stories were closer elements could leak over to another. I do this to bring up a few issues. A lot of storylines are soo awesome and incorporate people but are composed of their own trials, enemies allies and whatever. It can't effect our world, but it -can- effect our community. What I've started to realize is on our own lowered scale -we- are the lore characters. The Aristocrats, the Pirates, The Outcasts, The Heroes, The Villians, because if one of our own villians appear, who is going to stop them? Not Thrall, Not Stormwind's army. -We- are. We're the ones changing the movement of the world, because we're the only thing making moves. Lore Chars are on a standstill and will be until cataclysm. In which they will stop abruptly once more.

I think the Council of Blades was an excellent example of this and showed how awesome it could be. You had such a awesome cast of characters that had all had awesome stories Independent of each other. If you missed out on this amazing super group then quit reading this and look up this. The Council of Blades Keep in mind at the time this was composed of a lot of well known characters, some even guild leaders of pretty active guilds. They came together and brought a lot of the RP they had into one thing. So when they had events it was easier to hop in, because you at least knew a character, who knew a character who knew one of them or was allied with them. Now the point of this isn't to glorify the leaders, or participants. Nor is it a reason for CoTh's most active to come together and muscle out RP, but there are issues that we all have that I think can be solved with a little communication and coming together.

Events usually intersect as far as time concerns, and usually one event gets favored over the other. I've done it to people's events, and it's been done to me. Perhaps if the RP stories were webbed, The smaller event could join the larger one, but still make it an event for their own guild and storyline even though they were just participating. It'd be different because it was from another entities' perspective. Also I know this won't always work but its something to think about. I also think it would be ways for those with little activity to participate in larger scale events, and we could also make larger scaled events if the result changed multiple guilds or storylines from their own respective perspectives. Eclipse.

Guild/storyline war would be easier this way. We shouldn't make two guilds up just to fight each other. We should take two guilds/storylines independent of each other, or make them establish them, then have them fight or have conflict. Because there needs to be something to fall back on, or keep the story going while feuding. Both parties need to be active and of a hive mind for the other way to work out. This also can help villains, you do not know how close I was on many occasions to make a 'Legion of Doom'-esque proposal. Because it's hard out here for bad guys and we could all use a little help. Yeah we have different types and people don't like those types but I say if the person portrays their character consistently, and well then you just have to realize you dislike them because of personal preference and not lack of convincing RP ability. Plus everyone plays differently because we are different. If you line up Batman's bad guys they're all crazy but different, and they even look at each other condescendingly in some instances but work together due to a common enemy. Riddler, Joker, Two-face, Bane, Penguin, Mr. Freeze and Scarecrow are all insane, great villains but radically different. Its the same with heroes, The avengers or the justice league are composed of different types of heroes from squeaky-clean goody two shoes to, vigilante anti-heroes.

I'm not proposing that we make councils or teams for either alignment. But I think we should try to mix our elements more, let our RP come together, lets combine cliques. Worth a shot.

Side note.


I'm also looking for a group of writers, or those who enjoy writing storylines and things on the forum, as well as RP ingame. I'd like to bounce ideas to start a new twist in things, perhaps through new characters or existing ones. I'd like to find the people see what common interests we have and go from there. I have a few ideas in the works with GM's but if you have some I'd much rather hear those. I think we can really get people together if we do that. Others may like someone elses RP but our characters just wouldn't meet. This may go around that. I've always proposed the idea of a server wide guild. One we could join and all be a team or a large army or whatever an organization unique to the server and fought GM targeted villians and storylines but never worked out. What do you think?

[Aphetoros]

Topic 6: The CoTH-Universe


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I also think it would be ways for those with little activity to participate in larger scale events, and we could also make larger scaled events if the result changed multiple guilds or storylines from their own respective perspectives. Eclipse.

And so the meaning of Eclipse has been divined. It is not merely some... arbitrary word. What is an eclipse? What does it mean if one thing Eclipses another? If many things eclipse each other?

<SNIP AGAIN>


I'm also looking for a group of writers, or those who enjoy writing storylines and things on the forum, as well as RP ingame. I'd like to bounce ideas to start a new twist in things, perhaps through new characters or existing ones. I'd like to find the people see what common interests we have and go from there. I have a few ideas in the works with GM's but if you have some I'd much rather hear those. I think we can really get people together if we do that. Others may like someone elses RP but our characters just wouldn't meet. This may go around that. I've always proposed the idea of a server wide guild. One we could join and all be a team or a large army or whatever an organization unique to the server and fought GM targeted villians and storylines but never worked out. What do you think?

I would love to help you!

[Grogloki]

I support the larger scale scheme of things. I believe the world or CoTh is much to epic to restrain it to your everyday booty bay tavern RP with the slight twist of "Oh no an assassin has found me at the Salty Sailor again! Time to walk outside the city and brawl!".... Lame.... There is a whole world out there to be explored and touched upon. It has deep good solid lore and we have the means to use it. We have a banner that hangs over our website saying "We defined epic" or whatever... and "Your world, your legacy"... Well I must say CoTh that I have been greatly disappointed by the lack of use in these arenas. So Pharaoh you and I have worked together before and I would be happy to start something fresh. Hit me up.

[Dae]

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I'm also looking for a group of writers, or those who enjoy writing storylines and things on the forum, as well as RP ingame. I'd like to bounce ideas to start a new twist in things, perhaps through new characters or existing ones. I'd like to find the people see what common interests we have and go from there. I have a few ideas in the works with GM's but if you have some I'd much rather hear those. I think we can really get people together if we do that. Others may like someone elses RP but our characters just wouldn't meet. This may go around that. I've always proposed the idea of a server wide guild. One we could join and all be a team or a large army or whatever an organization unique to the server and fought GM targeted villians and storylines but never worked out. What do you think?

I'll admit now that I am not this person, nor will I ever be this person. First off, I have an absolutely terrible sense of narrative, and have trouble wrapping my head around social hierarchy. But I love to write characters, make them humble and believable, and watch them interact with others.
I am not here for socialization, nor am I here for writing epic storylines. I just love watching the individual interactions of our fantastical people in interesting situations.

And yet, everyone else is bustling about with their own affairs, with a guild or a job, missions and brooding upon acts of heroism and cruelty. And I like it that way- my characters, touching briefly the life of another whose interactions and intent differ insurmountably and unpredictably from their own.

Seeing everyone else concerned with these grandiose stories makes me wonder- are my interests interrupting these proceedings? Would I be better played as a medium between these groups and interests? Where does the Roleplayer of the moment fit in a server full of story arcs?

[ThePharaoh]

The player of the moment fits anywhere. I guess reaching out to those who like to write is just my way of trying to get the people who are trying to make movements. It isn't about the size of the storyline or the amount of characters. It's about progression, now any RP is progression whether it is in a tavern, or day to day RP in the city. But some people like or want more than that and either don't know how to go about it, have ideas but no one to run with them, or in my case have found things are stale and wish for a change. There is nothing wrong with just wanted to RP and watch what happens, Its what I enjoy the most, which is why I try to make up most things as I go along with a vague idea of the direction I'd like to go. It has its pros and cons. I encourage you to do what you enjoy, if its tavern RP and just getting to know people do that, and in some of those interactions you may get swept up into one of these story lines in a natural progression which is awesome. But maybe you don't like those things, that's cool to. It's all about finding what you enjoy and doing it I guess.

[Arrillion]

Sounds like me, especially the uppermost part. Though I'm not that much of a writer and have a nasty habit of never finishing things.

[Sourpuddle]

A mild example would be how Kafgar, a member of the whole evil-dark catacomb RP deal, tortured a Night Elf from the council and basically left them on their doorstep. It was very nominal, but there was connection, which is the important part. In any case, Kafgar is always open to be everyones/anyones antagonist, and you really get a jolt of excitement when you go to another social group and make your existance relevant. It's not so much that it's a bad thing, as much as it's impractical and has high risks.

If we can only grow the courage to move outside of our home bases and try to deal with the problems other characters make, we'll finally have some more reasons to keep the cycle going. This way, the conflict is player-driven, and doesn't really require the need for GM's to give us anything, or atleast makes it so what they do provide is more special than usual.

But yeah, sure, Kafgar for President.

[ThePharaoh]

Topic 7: TheGratitude


A post I made around the time of the first CoTH Cast I did. So a lot of the things I planned will be changed. I doubt I will talk about "TheDeparture" or "TheFuture" as both concepts have changed since then. Also some of these messages may have been outdated. THis is the first part, for some reason I lost the part where I give thanks to Reigen, c0rzilla and I'm assuming a couple others. But I will post the parts I do have after work sometime. Probably will make more along the road. Just things that are on my mind is all.

[ThePharaoh]

I found part two, and the two parts that I thought that I lost. I'd like to note that when I do start any of these recordings I never intend them to be this long so I apologize for that. Also Thank you to the community and people that I forgot to name but I just wanted to show appreciation to people who've made my three years here enjoyable. Also keep in mind this is pretty old as well.