Special, and Prestige?

[Psychyn]

I just think the high elf thing is a silly biasness. I have 0 intention to ever make one, but for a race that out-numbers Dwarves, Gnomes, and Night Elves (put together) in Elwynn, and falls only 8,000 numbers shorter than Dwarves in Stormwind City, I think they're not unplausable to play. However, we the fanbase, will be the ones to suffer the GM's biasness.

I think it's because of:

When Kael'Thas founded the blood elves, approximately 90%[2] of the surviving high elven population left and joined his cause.

Source: http://www.wowpedia.org/High_elf

The ten percent, while still large in number would probably cause the High Elves to be severely overplayed if allowed, making them more common then normal blood elves? I do believe the yap at the entire GM team is unfair, as you aren't aware of the opinion of each and single one.

Just tossing that out here, I have no interest in High Elves what so ever, I'm indifferent. I just got a hunch, that if allowed, half of CotH rolls one, why I do not know.

[McKnighter]

Perhaps I will make an attempt to create a special profile and/or a custom I.D. thread to play as a High Elf with the Silver Covenant, as it might be the best/only way to roll a High Elf.


However... There's a high risk that it'll simply be flamed to death... But in the future, I shall try.

In order to do this, I could roll a Human Mage, and simply have its model changed to one of the High Elven models. That way faction changing wouldn't be too much of an issue.

Hrm.. We'll see.

[Jeff]

That is true, but somehow I doubt if we allow them to be a custom model the GMs would allow them to be over-played. Since, after all, it's their job to keep things orderly. 21,500 High Elves in the Elwynn area alone is a hard number to over play. For every 1 Night Elf in the area, there is roughly 5 High Elves, 7 Dwarves, and roughly 2 Half-Elves. Should we step on the toes of Night Elves who go to Elwynn now, because the odds of them being one of the few Night Elves there is slim? Certainly not.

[ruwendje44]

These races are NOT allowed to be player characters, for varying reasons:

* Dragon
* Pit Lord
* Pandaren
* Felblood elf
* High Elf
* Eredar

Now ignore all of those except the last three. I've seen many people playing Felblood Elves and I've seen people playing Eredar. Unless they were just custom models and not actually Felblood Elves and Eredar, that means that those 'rules' aren't exactly set in stone.

But someone correct me if I'm wrong.
And politely, please.

Those rules still apply, even if people play with one of their models to give their 'class' a better match with what they RP as. For example, Mistal who has the model of a Felblood Elf, while he's officially a Fel-sworn.

Still nobody would be allowed to play as a Fel-elf it self, since that has been set in stone.

[McKnighter]

Well, Blood Elves are one of the more lesser populations of Warcraft, yet they're most likely the 2nd most played, 1st taken by humans.


.. I do believe one or two High Elves is not pushing it. Seeing how we have a Doomguard, a handful of Fel-Sworn among other things... These are much more uncommon than a High Elf.

[Psychyn]

That is true, but somehow I doubt if we allow them to be a custom model the GMs would allow them to be over-played. Since, after all, it's their job to keep things orderly. 21,500 High Elves in the Elwynn area alone is a hard number to over play. For every 1 Night Elf in the area, there is roughly 5 High Elves, 7 Dwarves, and roughly 2 Half-Elves. Should we step on the toes of Night Elves who go to Elwynn now, because the odds of them being one of the few Night Elves there is slim? Certainly not.

I really wonder where you get those numbers from, as the guide I always follow aka WoW-Wiki (Seems now known as Wow-pedia?) states 1.500. I do believe GMs follow that as well, as not everyone posses information to any WoW lore books and what not. 1.500 high elves really, is not much. Considering 90% of all high elves turned into blood elves, the changes of actually seeing them apart from NPC form stays slim if you ask me.

http://www.wowpedia.org/Elwynn_Forest

They would be overplayed, if there were only high elves and no blood elves online in the future?

Should we step on the toes of Night Elves who go to Elwynn now, because the odds of them being one of the few Night Elves there is slim?

As for that, I step on the toes of every Night Elf ICly who does not stay in their lands. That's good enough. Regardless, it's off topic.

.. I do believe one or two High Elves is not pushing it. Seeing how we have a Doomguard, a handful of Fel-Sworn among other things... These are much more uncommon than a High Elf.

Allow one, and many others want to be allowed. If they do not get allowed, they will be disappointed and say it's unfair. Same with a weapon only a rare amount of people wield. Quarter of CotH has the weapon, half of CotH wants it, quarter of CotH doesn't care. Elitism? Somewhat, and that should be kept to a minimum if you ask me.

But.. seriously, wasn't this thread about how special profiles are different then prestige profiles? I think that was answered, no?

[Jeff]

That is true, but somehow I doubt if we allow them to be a custom model the GMs would allow them to be over-played. Since, after all, it's their job to keep things orderly. 21,500 High Elves in the Elwynn area alone is a hard number to over play. For every 1 Night Elf in the area, there is roughly 5 High Elves, 7 Dwarves, and roughly 2 Half-Elves. Should we step on the toes of Night Elves who go to Elwynn now, because the odds of them being one of the few Night Elves there is slim? Certainly not.

I really wonder where you get those numbers from, as the guide I always follow aka WoW-Wiki states 1.500. I do believe GMs follow that as well, as not everyone posses information to any WoW lore books and what not. 1.500 high elves really, is not much. Considering 90% of all high elves turned into blood elves, the changes of actually seeing them apart from NPC form stays slim if you ask me.

http://www.wowpedia.org/Elwynn_Forest

They would be overplayed, if there were only high elves and no blood elves online in the future?

Should we step on the toes of Night Elves who go to Elwynn now, because the odds of them being one of the few Night Elves there is slim?

As for that, I step on the toes of every Night Elf ICly who does not stay in their lands. That's good enough. Regardless, it's off topic.

Count Stormwind in the Elwynn Area as well. That said, GMs can limit numbers of custom races. But be honest, look at CotH... is our player base really going to bring everyone and their brother to roll a High Elf? Not likely. No ammount of lore justification or lies can change the fact: High Elves are disallowed because the head of our staff does not want them in CotH. I could point out inconsistancies all day about races played, classes played, locations people go to, etc. I won't though, because I don't need to do that for any of you.

[Psychyn]

I won't though, because I don't need to do that for any of you.

Forgive me, that came across as grumpy? Nobody asked you to do that. ;3

With Stormwind added however, it raises the number by quite a few. I stand corrected. And the last thing we need is more Elitism feeling to CotH as I stated in the above post, if you only grant a certain amount of people a High Elf, many others are disappointed.

is our player base really going to bring everyone and their brother to roll a High Elf? Not likely.

I disagree, as my view point is different on that. Can't add much more to it.

No ammount of lore justification or lies can change the fact: High Elves are disallowed because the head of our staff does not want them in CotH.

If you are truly, so bothered with that fact, write a PM and send it to -all- of them for discussion? I honestly do not believe in this bias.

Any-ho, I think I voiced my opinion and thoughts at least. Not sure what to add so I'll leave it there. *Quits derailing thread.*

[Goarn]

We constantly break race rules. The Quel'Dorei race was decimated before they became blood elves, yet nearly half the server is Sin'dorei. This "there's too few of them" argument shouldn't hold up. In addition, what's the harm letting people play high elves? Every race can be played poorly, so just because a couple bad RPers might be High Elves shouldn't dissuade people from playing them.

[FlyingSquirrel]

Why are High Elves so popular, even? They're Blood Elves with a different eyecolor, so put on some goggles and head to Booty Bay. Most Blood Elves are there anyways.

[Nostra]

First off, you are off-topic! Come on guys, this wasn't about why high elves aren't allowed.

Second, the original question has been answered, so I will lock the topic.

Third, the reason high elves aren't allowed is shown in this thread, it's a race that many have heated feelings about and we have no wish to further unbalance the Alliance-Horde ratio, besides, there are plenty of avenues to explore the concepts presented by high elves already.

High Elves are disallowed because the head of our staff does not want them in CotH.

This is true, but the same goes for every rule on the server.