The Ebon Hounds

[Gaiaboy10]

Bel, this isn't supposed to be an official branch of the Ebon Blade. Nor is it said anywhere it is -supported- by them. This was founded by a human priest, made to hunt down rogue Death Knights. If it's what he wants to do, he can do it. If their rogues, I doubt the Blade would care if some one decided to hunt them down.

[Loxmardin]

What are you going to do when someone refuses death and/or maiming which they can do at any time?

Please keep this in mind. Guilds built solely around the purpose of hunting down and somehow damaging (in various extents) another group of characters are difficult to run since they require the consent of those that they hunt. Don't overrun this principle and don't push the issue if whomever you find to be your "victim" does not wish to let bad things happen to their character.

That is all.

[Beltharean]

...their rogues, I doubt the Blade would care if some one decided to hunt them down.

I'm pretty sure if a group was running around, killing Death Knights just walking around a town because they're not wearing goggles and carrying a sword, the Ebon Blade would intervene. As I said, the Ebon Hound's definition of rogue seems extremely unforgiving, and might I add, random. Everyone carries swords in Azeroth, High Elves, Blood Elves, Night Elves, Draenei, and even some paladins have glowing eyes, so that makes no sense... And there's nothing you can do about your voice.

If I was Mograine, and someone was hunting -my- people, deeming them rogue without -my- consent, I know I'd retaliate without a second thought.

(Sorry again for any spelling, these Itouch screens kill :/ )

[Ben]

Beltharean, you argue with anger, so I'll return fire with unequal amounts.

Have you not read what I posted?

Not everyone will be killed, I stated that it WAS NOT the point of this guild. Please don't TL;DR something you're arguing about, it's obscene and disrespectful. Think about the context of the guild post, it's a priest, not Blade Knights. Sure, they might be responded to badly by the true Knights of the Ebon Blade; but I can live with that, it'd be good RP, with LOTS of possibilities.

Secondly, again with the TL;DR, the last post I made on this topic stated the guild had an ENEMY GUILD. The guilds will be fighting between each other, not always wandering the streets looking for trouble to piously stop.

Third, the aim of the guild, which again was stated, was NOT to cause drama, it was to show people how we used to do things so they can create an informed decision on the topic.

Fourth, no; you can't hide your voice. But if you'd understood the context of the Blade, Eyes, and Voice ideology, you'd have realised that all three are needed because, yes, everybody carries a sword. Yes, some people have a weird voice, and also yes, some people have glowy eyes. BUT not many have all three. We're not saying we're gonna carry them off upon seeing them, procedure would be to enquire first, see if they are a Death Knight. THEN do whatever.

Last, no, of course we don't force people to be killed or maimed. The point isn't to kill, as previously stated. We'd PM the person before any action to create parameters for what was coming, then carry out what was decided. If they wanted no action, than we could spontaneously avoid seeing them. No issue. We're not amateurs.

[c0rzilla]

Beltharean, you argue with anger, so I'll return fire with unequal amounts.

Beltharean isn't angry at all. And, even so, you "returning fire" is just appearing immature. :/

[Spark]

Looks interesting and I will surely get involved on one side when I get back in-game in 4 days. Slightly discouraging seeing the amount of apparent drama already but I hope that will be sorted out soon which will make way for some nice RP.

[Nostra]

Keep it civil or the topic will be locked.

[Amerason]

Keep it cool yo, keep it cool. Man I am sorry, this was such a worthless post, lemme go and read over this topic so I can actually add some input... useless reply was useless.

[Ben]

So, I'm having issues due to a miss-click from CotH leading to my WoW getting infected. I'm currently reinstalling. Shant be long, all.

[Beltharean]

No, I didn't tl;dr, if I did, I wouldn't have said anything at all, since I -was- planning on joining the guild at first. It seems rather lore-breaking to me however, now that I've looked further into it. Could you imagine if some random sect of adventurers decided to become a vigilante group, attacking mages that didn't train in Dalaran, used enchanted weapons, and had any form of arcane corruption? No one would allow it, in any town, county, race, or faction. The Alliance would halt the group's attempts at murdering an alliance member even if they aren't a member of the Kirin Tor. Same goes for the Horde. And, I do understand completely you won't be murdering every single Death Knight you come across, but even if you kill two or three, the group would themselves be considered rogue in the -Alliance's- eyes having killed what their laws deem as innocent civilians.

[c0rzilla]

Hm. What does the group think of a Death Knight that aids people down here...? Why do all Death Knights have to fight Scourge in Northrend?

[Dascki]

This guild is aimed at assaulting rogue Death Knights, and either killing them, or teaching them a lesson.

The aim of this guild, OOCly, is to bring back the old ways of doing things in regards to how Death Knights are played.

There are now many Death Knights who are not played in Northrend, and those are the ones who will be targeted by the Hounds. But not all Death Knights in Azeroth will be attacked.

The guild is aimed at finding rogue Death Knights and killing them/teaching them a lesson. In other words, the IC -goal- of the guild is the killing/maiming of other players, specifically DKs and anyone who decides to help one. That is what I understand from the first part.

The OOC aim of the guild is to bring back the 'old ways' of doing things in regards to how Death Knights are played. It seems as though you are trying to assimilate everyone to how you think a DK should be played, or how they should act. If you ask me, it's like saying all warriors should be this, or all mages should act like this. This is only how I am perceiving the writings.

A rogue Death Knight is not one who isn't in Northrend, fighting Scourge. The Ebon Blade just wants to destroy the Lich King/Scourge. That's it. As long as no other DKs get in their way, they couldn't care less about them. I imagine a rogue DK, someone who is openly killing people. A rogue DK is definitely not a DK who just wants to relax around a city. Although you mentioned that they will not all be attacked. Once again, my understanding.

It seems as though, (It has been mentioned) that this guild seems to be revolved around killing Death Knights who are not in Northrend. Now, I am not saying the guild is stupid, because, frankly, it seems like a good guild, but it's sole purpose can't be just that. It will eventually fall apart, when half the DKs say they don't want their character touched. Like Nostra said, if you expand the guild objectives, it has a better look on your characters and will last much longer.

Once again, this is not an attack, just how I and few others are perceiving it. I am not trying to insult, just point out what I find strange.

[Gaiaboy10]

The guild is aimed at finding rogue Death Knights and killing them/teaching them a lesson. In other words, the IC -goal- of the guild is the killing/maiming of other players, specifically DKs and anyone who decides to help one. That is what I understand from the first part.

Now, I want to point out something you said here. A lot of people jump to the conclusion that teaching them a lesson is maiming. It could be anywhere from lobbing off an arm to giving them a stern talk.

The OOC aim of the guild is to bring back the 'old ways' of doing things in regards to how Death Knights are played. It seems as though you are trying to assimilate everyone to how you think a DK should be played, or how they should act. If you ask me, it's like saying all warriors should be this, or all mages should act like this. This is only how I am perceiving the writings.

Once again...something very wrong here. Unlike most classes, there is a very well portrayed way of playing Death Knights. People who do not play it this way are in fact, doing it wrong. A Warrior could love flowers and prance around in fields and it's fine because he's just a normal person with a sword and armor. A Death Knight is generally undead and very deeply depressed. If any are as happy as they would be alive, they're a minority.


But sadly, we have twenty or so living Knights who are having sex left and right running around. The aim of the guild is to remind people that unlike other classes and races, DKs are -not- free to do whatever or be whatever they want. I know I can't confine people to a cookie cutter DK. But it is just not right to let people do whatever they like with a class that has so many aspects that are unclear about it. We can't make a straight frame for them. But we can and -should- give them a flexible one. I'm fine with a few, not depressed Knights and a couple living ones. But not in the numbers they're in now.

[Spark]

Once again...something very wrong here. Unlike most classes, there is a very well portrayed way of playing Death Knights. People who do not play it this way are in fact, doing it wrong. A Warrior could love flowers and prance around in fields and it's fine because he's just a normal person with a sword and armor. A Death Knight is generally undead and very deeply depressed. If any are as happy as they would be alive, they're a minority.


But sadly, we have twenty or so living Knights who are having sex left and right running around. The aim of the guild is to remind people that unlike other classes and races, DKs are -not- free to do whatever or be whatever they want. I know I can't confine people to a cookie cutter DK. But it is just not right to let people do whatever they like with a class that has so many aspects that are unclear about it. We can't make a straight frame for them. But we can and -should- give them a flexible one. I'm fine with a few, not depressed Knights and a couple living ones. But not in the numbers they're in now.

People who do not play it this way are in fact, doing it wrong

But it is just not right to let people do whatever they like with a class that has so many aspects that are unclear about it.

This.

[Loxmardin]

I wish to point something out here, right now.

No one is the ruler of another player's character. And there are very few ways of playing a Death Knight "wrong", and a fellow player to a player should never be the judge of that. There are things to keep in mind when playing a Death Knight, yes, but that does not dictate that all Death Knights should treat their experiences the same. This applies to every other class and race, and applies even to Death Knights.

Don't assume that you know their character from a first glance. They may well have very good reason to be doing what they're doing. That is all.