Server Restart Date

[Grakor456]

First of all, it saddens me that people immediately assume the worst of me and that I have to make this clarification, but apparently I do:

When I say "I" in cases like this. I refer to my own personal opinion, but no changes that I make are done in a vacuum. The discussion of the restart date was passed by GMs, and the idea of doing it soon was decided. (The actual date that was originally agreed upon was the first, until I spoke to Kretol and he clarified that it likely wouldn't be possible due to his being at work for the rest of the week after his vacation. A to-be determined date on the following week was the best solution, and was Kretol's suggestion.)

I very, very rarely make executive decisions without consulting the rest of the GM team first. This wasn't my decision, it was the GM team's decision.

So, I wasn't sure if I saw this mentioned but what happens to current prestiges if the old system is being wiped? Do we have to represtige if the variant system is going to remain?

See the thread in general discussion. The specifics of what will happen will likely need to be determined on a case-by-case basis, and we'll go over that as we get closer to the restart date.

Also, secretly posting instead of doing homework, anyways! If we restart now does that mean we won't have to when Cataclysm hits CotH?

There will likely be another OOC character wipe due to the change of core, but the idea is to do the restart now, so we don't have to do another profile-resubmission etc. etc. phase. So, we will have a restart for Cata only in the barest sense for what is necessary to make the move, mandated by the change of core.

[Uthaniel]

If I want to make a special request regarding my prestige character, the restart, and how I would appreciate it being dealt with, how do I proceed to informing you, Grak?

(Remember I can't be ingame since I'm recovering from surgery and the laptop doesn't run WoW, though.)

[HelveteSong]

There will likely be another OOC character wipe due to the change of core, but the idea is to do the restart now, so we don't have to do another profile-resubmission etc. etc. phase. So, we will have a restart for Cata only in the barest sense for what is necessary to make the move, mandated by the change of core.

So you're saying that for the Cataclysm restart, we will not have to go through the whole resubmisison process for profiles and will be able to recreate our characters and have them properly leveled if they have their profiles up?

[Grakor456]

If I want to make a special request regarding my prestige character, the restart, and how I would appreciate it being dealt with, how do I proceed to informing you, Grak?

(Remember I can't be ingame since I'm recovering from surgery and the laptop doesn't run WoW, though.)

We'll go over this once the system that we're proceeding with is decided. I want the votes to settle down.

So you're saying that for the Cataclysm restart, we will not have to go through the whole resubmisison process for profiles and will be able to recreate our characters and have them properly leveled if they have their profiles up?

That's the idea.

[Kirabo]

Took you long enough.

[Stormgald]

I have one thing to say: BRING BACK WSG! GMI is too gloomy.

EDIT: Oh, but wait. We're not switching cores so that still isn't possible, is it?

[Cressy]

Won't work on this core.

[Stormgald]

Do hate.

[Ben]

Could someone clarify: which lore details do we require?

Again, not with or against this...but meh.

The effort of getting engineering to god-levels again is not appealing. In the slightest. Nor getting my items back. [And I don't mean outfits]

[Kretol]

Could someone clarify: which lore details do we require?

Again, not with or against this...but meh.

The effort of getting engineering to god-levels again is not appealing. In the slightest. Nor getting my items back. [And I don't mean outfits]

Well, on the plus side, I did change production professions not too long ago so that skill-ups are received... I think 5x. So, any skill-up would up your skill by 5 instead of 1. That, and you do still have a small chance to increase your skill with greys (albeit relatively low).

[Psychyn]

The effort of getting engineering to god-levels again is not appealing. In the slightest. Nor getting my items back.

You realize it only takes some money and time? I wouldn't be too worried about this, on retail, it's five times more expensive and takes five times longer. Grind all the mats yourself, find the right people with the right professions for the mats you can't make, all while spending more money then you'll ever spend on CotH.

It's just a profession. Consider yourself blessed that you ain't on retail. ^^

Just a fun fact: Engineering Mekgineer's chopper on retail sells for 30k gold, because it takes roughly 15~20k to make one and people want profit on it. Plus the "rare" factor on it, the fact that it's a two person mount and that only Engineers can make it.

Vial of the sands (2 player dragon mount), alchemist profession (525 aka max level needed) also sells for 40k gold. No idea what the mats cost, and I'm lucky to have one on retail but man. They are expensive.

Edit ; To be honest, I always found professions to be absolutely no fun on CotH simply because everything is purchasable. There's no real effort required to get any profession up to the max level apart from time. A week if you do it on casual rate, probably three days if you do nothing else for a bit.

Edit 2 ; I bet for a beer that the "Server first" achievements will be taken within 48~72 hours in at least 3 main professions.

[hiddengecko]

Personally, I look forward to the reset! It offers me an opportunity to refine and distill my characters, and to solve various inconsistencies and issues caused. I'll miss Vyerni being a Runemaster, but it's not really a problem anyway.

[Zarquon]

Will the decision as to whether it is a variant or a free-form system be made by then?

Will we have to remake profiles or can we resubmit old ones? (The first week post restart is going to be so stressful for the forum helpers it isn't even funny!)

[Dotsy]

My guess is that we will be able to resubmit old profiles if their stories check out. If it all goes like last time, then we should just be able to copy paste along with a new section on whether changes were made or not.

Most likely, if you profile was accepted and you made no changes to reflect what happened in-game, you'll mostly be safe from having to go back and edit it up. If you made a few changes, I'm sure a GM/FH will be able to help you when you try and resubmit it.

(Hope this helps, Zar!)

[Kretol]

There's something else to add on.
Something that I was considering was to only allow characters fitting certain criteria to go through the "fast-track" of pre-approved characters. Notably, those characters that are level 80 and have been logged on within the past month. I already made a list of them and exported it into a spreadsheet which folks can check here.

Why do this?
While some may see it as yet another horrible restriction/change, my intention is to limit the amount of characters that have been collecting dust. Furthermore, I wish to limit the amount of characters that will be put through simply for the level-up and money and then shelved immediately. This will result in a bit less work in going through pre-approved profiles.

Also bear in mind that the pre-approved process would be for characters that need little or no changes. If you intend on bringing characters back from inactivity by completely changing their history/vocation/etc., they wouldn't really be eligible anyway.

Something else to bring up is the process for the 'fast track.' I'm envisioning any eligible characters would have a dedicated queue, and while you'd only be able to submit one at a time, there would be no cooldown period of a week like normal profiles. Furthermore, normal profiles probably wouldn't see attention until a wee bit after the restart date.

What if I've been inactive for a bit? D:
I haven't forgotten about you! A tentative thing I have in mind is to allow one or two pre-approved characters that may be eligible. But again, that is tentative, as is the rest of the above!

Now, I realize that if someone really wants a pre-approved profile put through again, it's going to go through one way or another. I think the main thing is to just ensure that active characters get higher priority initially.

What do folks think? I imagine it'll probably be a largely unpopular decision, but keep in mind that it'd really just equate to a bit of a longer wait for most characters that aren't on the list.