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10-17-2011, 04:41 PM
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Constantly telling each individual who joins the RP to remember that there is a child there with you gets very taxing...
And if Just having a kid there IC not an actual model there... There is still a child in those situations.
The only way to stop it is to just plain ban anyone IC under 18 player or not, and if you ask me...that is just plain tyranny.
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Well, perhaps it's taxing so your character just leaves the kid at home?
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I actually rped having a child around the bar and doing stuff. People actually reacted pretty well to the child being there, model or not, but I was also fearful of letting the child be in certain rps because I think there are some people who are just mustache-twirly evil enough that they'd kill a child for the sake of killing it.
I think there's a lot of reasons not to have children around, the rp here just isn't that child friendly part of the time.
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Honestly, the negative repercussions to having a child model outweigh the good.
People can abuse it and, in the process of this abuse, people can get offended.
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10-17-2011, 04:55 PM
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While this is true, as I said, the only difference between just plain saying you have a child with you, and actually having the model with you, is that people can see it easier. They know it is there and can move around and react more directly.
If people get offended because of something that happens around or to a child model... They would get just as offended if it happened to an invisible IC child.
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Actually because it counts as a pet the child would go off to random places.
Have you tried rping having a child around yet without the model? It actually might work better than you think. I've done it a few times but as Rosencrat mentions I try to keep out of sticky situations because to be frank, I don't really want the pretend children to get hurt.
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10-17-2011, 05:00 PM
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(10-17-2011, 04:50 PM)FlyingSquirrel Wrote: Well, perhaps it's taxing so your character just leaves the kid at home?
Just saying, that is the same as saying "Just don't RP with a kid at all."
But the main thing I am trying to say is...
People have pets... bad things can happen to them as well.
People themselves can easily get hurt.
People curse and yell profanities all the time, some often very bad.
Like last night the troll at the party yelling things like "Tits" And "Pussy" Regardless of whether a pretend child is around, is still offensive.
Besides... There are orphanages in what, 4 cities? People go around screaming profanities all the time, but it does not seem to be a problem when kids are playing in the streets two feet away.
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We aren't speaking of In-Character people getting offended. We are speaking of OOC feelings.
I myself would get offended if I saw a warrior taking his daughter into the middle of a battle field and she gets shot.
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10-17-2011, 05:07 PM
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And my actual main point is just that bad things happening to a child model or IC are the same thing.
(10-17-2011, 05:07 PM)Rosencrat Wrote: We aren't speaking of In-Character people getting offended. We are speaking of OOC feelings.
I myself would get offended if I saw a warrior taking his daughter into the middle of a battle field and she gets shot.
I am not saying you are. I am saying you could emote that you take your daughter into the battlefield and she gets shot IC...would you not still be OOC offended?
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Then look to Wuvuum's very valid point that the non-model is easier to use.
The real model can be glitchy.
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I mean, there not being a model would not stop you from being offended.
Infact, having the model would lessen the offensive nature of it, considering that if you say a child dies, the model will sit there staring at you like you are retarded.
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(10-17-2011, 05:13 PM)zeromanzx Wrote: I mean, there not being a model would not stop you from being offended.
Infact, having the model would lessen the offensive nature of it, considering that if you say a child dies, the model will sit there staring at you like you are retarded.
That isn't funny at all. Don't joke about having a child die. Ever.
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It sounds like you're saying that the child model is better because it'll make you feel stupid about yourself? o:
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10-17-2011, 05:23 PM
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They are companions not pets. Pets actually have different mechanics than companions. While Companions can not be attacked and have no actual mechanics that allow them to attack, they just follow you not usually getting farther than about 3 feet away from you. Being a pet is what causes them to have some free will, since they have both the ability to move to a targeted location/target, and use abilities such as charge or leap, they have more free will in their mechanics.
At least... that is what would make sense to me.
I never have problems with companions going where I want them too.
(10-17-2011, 05:21 PM)Cressy Wrote: (10-17-2011, 05:13 PM)zeromanzx Wrote: I mean, there not being a model would not stop you from being offended.
Infact, having the model would lessen the offensive nature of it, considering that if you say a child dies, the model will sit there staring at you like you are retarded.
That isn't funny at all. Don't joke about having a child die. Ever.
You didn't have a problem when Rosencrat said it... in fact he even said HOW the child died and you didn't say anything.
(10-17-2011, 05:21 PM)Wuvvums Wrote: It sounds like you're saying that the child model is better because it'll make you feel stupid about yourself? o:
And no.
I am saying it is better for the same reason that using the new kick animation item they added or the death animations are better...
Because it is something you can actually watch and see and helps you better visualize it.
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10-17-2011, 05:40 PM
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(10-17-2011, 05:23 PM)zeromanzx Wrote: They are companions not pets.
Children are children.
Plus, I don't really think you understand. There are parents on this server, as well as some kids, and I don't really think many people want to see kids put in places that are dangerous. Just do what Hawk did with Draknir's kid and have the kid stay at home the whole time. I've never really been able to see the logic behind bringing a kid out into such a dangerous world in the first place.
Plus, Rosencrat (in my honest opinion) did it a lot more humbly. She just said if the kid was shot. You basically said that if the kid is killed, then the kid doesn't move, as if that's some sort of green light.
Plus, Rosencrat is a female.
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