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Don't pin this soley on Kretol and Grakor though, after over four years this ruling has come about.


It was soley based on what they wanted on their website, this would have been outlined years ago, this is to cull all the stuff that's been going on lately, and it's -scary-. That's all I'm saying here, I'm fine with them outlining rules, but one that encompasses anything that's deemed as offensive goes from "PG-13" to "G"

Edit: And I know this stuff doesn't come from one time. I know this. TRUST ME, heh. It's just that, at what point is this going to be a please -everyone- server? When is some stuff just gonna be ignored...? Granted, this has been going on for what, near a year? That in itself should say something yes?

Eh.

I give up.

That's... not what I was intending. Heh. What I'd rather have happen is people discuss this without it becoming a "Nuke the offense!" type deal. I understand perfectly well what you are trying to say, Rig. I know -why- you're trying to say it, and I know -why- people are pushing for it. My question is... WHEN did we become a place that caters to -everything-.

This rule wants GMs to entertain the idea of peoplle getting in trouble based on it, yes? "It's offensive because there is x involved". Or, "This is offensive because I am Y". You get enough people on your bandwagon, then it festers, and -becomes- a problem. The complaints pile up, and eventually something has to be done.

Obviously fine tuning rules is needed on a server. Never before has this had to be outlined (and it's sad that it does!). But -when- is it just gonna be cool to have a solid rule that says "This is what you guys found offensive, this is what is banned" and not just the shotgun effect of "BAN ALL THE OFFENSES!"



I'm serious. This is coming from someone that wants to RP a drunken ex-slave that fights and swears, but feels like he can't because in the past people have claimed offense, -but in the past- it's been ignored like a lot of the crap we had to filter through as GMs.

I dunno guys, I've been wanted to not share my opinion here, because I don't know -how- to feel with this anymore because people get shit now no matter what you post.

Well, Rensin. This is the first time in the three years where art has been this big of an issue. So yes, maybe we didn't need it then, but it is very apparent that it is needed now. It is sad that it has come to this point, but what can we do?

It is a different time, a different server entirely.

It's not even that specifically, it's the whole "Anything that's offensive". I understand the no big breasts\oversexualized organs\nudity, but this is open season for damn near anything... that could be considered offensive.

Also, we have had this discussion before, it just never blew up like this. We even had an adult forum in the past -for- such things, or at least an adult picture area, till it was removed because of the pictures still showing up on the front page.

Rambling aside, I think the rule just needs to be more outlined, or it opens up -too- many possibilities.

All I meant by that was that admins should be able to act like admins; that if they get a complaint they can decide on the outcome. Something they already do, just placing it into solid wording.

Yeah, that makes sense. I was mis-understanding you there, and thought you meant it was soley their descision.

All I'm asking is that this is outlined like it was. "No enlarged breasts\nudity\oversexualized organs." Otherwise it encompases a lot of stuff, and makes it seem like anything is up for debate.

I never said that it shouldn't be outlined in that way. Only that that sentence be added at the end as a disclaimer.

I'm tired. I'll leave you all to continue the discussion from here on out.

I just noticed something with the rules...

Quote:As a general rule of thumb: if you would not want to show something to a ten year-old with his mother standing over his shoulder, you probably shouldn't put it on our forums.

So, we're no longer a generally PG-13 forums?
We've gone down to PG, if that?

To be honest, it's fairly insulting to the intelligence and maturity of the forum goers.
On top of that, you also assume a lot of child/mother relationships. Not everyone is overly sheltered.

I wanted to stay out of this. I wanted it so bad. But I -can't- help making a post about how much I agree with Binkle's post.

I'm sorry that's what you think, but all I'd like to see is a bit more outlined.

Edit: Thank you to whoever is keeping this thread constructive.

I guess I'm just not too involved in the issue enough to understand why it's caused such an uproar from either side.
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However, the main point I'm seeming to get is something similar to:

"Please don't post something that's overly-sexual or overly-violent."

When something posted "crosses the line", shouldn't that be the point where GMs intervene with something similar to:

"We're sorry, but your previous post was deemed too mature for our forums and was deleted. We're sorry for any inconveniences but please try to refrain from posting similar things in the future." ?

(01-16-2012, 03:12 PM)Dotsy Wrote: "Please don't post something that's overly-sexual or overly-violent."

When something posted "crosses the line", shouldn't that be the point where GMs intervene with something similar to:

"We're sorry, but your previous post was deemed too mature for our forums and was deleted. We're sorry for any inconveniences but please try to refrain from posting similar things in the future." ?

This.

Haha, exactly. The -only- reason I'm even posting is because I was looking and did a double take at what the rule stated. Could we -pretty please- change the wording to the original specifics?

edit: Dotsy, what you said even sums it up more. "Anything offensive" is too broad.