Return from the old days?

[Gaiaboy10]

I can agree there Wuvvums. But honestly, restricting them isn't the answer. An example, if you will.

You walk into your kitchen and see multiple house flies, and spiders. Now, the spiders are not poisonous and they don't pose a threat to you. They are in fact, killing the flies that you dislike anyway. Do you take a spray that would kill them both, or just let the spiders hang around and kill off the flies?

I suggest we just have faith that the good RPers will talk to people who they see doing stuff like this, instead of restricting them all.

[Wuvvums]

Putting the responsibility on good rpers to set an example wouldn't do as well as simply increasing the standards. Perhaps people would think a bit differently if a living DK had to be made as a special profile first.

[CharizardDylan]

Gaia, if there are spiders in my kitchen, they're dieing.


Restrictions really aren't a terrible, end of the world thing, it's just a gentle nudge to keep things in check. If people are playing the DKs right, than making a profile shouldn't be a problem.

but besides that, an idea mentioned earlier was that we profile only the living DKs, or that we halt them all together.

but, I have no problem with your idea of not having restrictions as long as this thread might open the eyes of those who aren't RPing correctly and maybe get them in the right path.

[muhaha8]

Wuvvums- Or, maybe, they'll just work around it, and do it anyway. I'm of the mind that there are people who would do that.

Charizard- That was me who said that. Also, agreed on the spiders thing. Those little things are getting killed. I wish that we could get away without restrictions, but I know that people will just view this as idle talk, and not anything that needs to be followed, which is why the restrictions should happen.

[FlyingSquirrel]

Forsaken don't have mounts on call, Forsaken don't have Saronite, Forsaken don't have Runic Strength, Forsaken don't have Runes in general. And Gaia, those that are good RPers wouldn't have a problem with it.

Also, Purified Saronite is basically for the elite of the elite. And I don't want to shut an entire class. I want to allow the people that can play it to play it correctly. I want to allow something that has great RP possibilities to be RP'd correctly. It's nothing about having something about the class. I want it to be RP'd correctly and, in my opinion, the last policy was great.

Furthermore, Beltharean and anyone else who really has any opposition they'd like to clear up, I'd like to politely ask you to stop posting in the thread. Sure, I'll continue it in PMs, but I don't want a thread which I would like to see taken seriously just be blown over because it turns into a flame war. If you want to continue our discussion, then PM me, but I'd preferably be on the safe side. XD

As I said earlier, I don't want to completely shut the class off. I want to restrict it to the people that play it correctly. There's a difference between restriction and shutting it off. ^.~

[Etmosril]

Does this mean we'd have to re-submit all Death Knight profiles?

[Gaiaboy10]

It was only a metaphor. -_- The spiders were supposed to be good RPers. And, alright Squirrel. I"m just saying, there is no middle ground to restrictions. There is no way to make them work out so that only good people go by them. You're either too easy with them and everyone gets by, or you're too strict and no one does.

[CharizardDylan]

Etmo, For the sake of reason, I would say that any profiled Death Knight would be fine as they have already been accepted by GMs, if these restrictions were to be put into effect [which at this point it is just a suggestion by some community members] than I would say that any future DKs would have to be profiled AND I would like to see the DK character be looked at a bit more strictly.

[Beltharean]

If you request opposition to stop posting in your thread, then it's a one sided argument, where people with legitimate points are quieted. I find it rather disrespectful that you would shut me out of an entire thread because I have an opposing view from yours.

[FlyingSquirrel]

No, Etmos, I would see not having to resubmit as... sensible. Also, Beltharean, that's not what I meant. I meant that people that don't want it can say, "Hey, I don't like this". Yet if you want to have a discussion about it, then I'd preferably keep that away from here.

[CharizardDylan]

A lighter alternative to restrictions is to have the staff/community to speak out against these "Wrong DKs", maybe a "How to DK" stickied tutorial on the forums, along with ingame feedback when you see DKs that are being portrayed wrong. It's a decent compromise I think.

[Aphetoros]

People will simply ignore it as many of the other helpful guides.

[JackofBlades]

Char, when people make guides to say "ROLE PLAY LIKE THIS!" Some people go "No, in fact, TIME TO ANTI-DO THAT!" and so and and so fourth.

[CharizardDylan]

Astus.Just brainstorming options that will make everyone happy. but I can see how guides can be lost and forgotten. I guess this, as with every debate, will make somebody unhappy.

Jack, Fair enough, I was merely suggesting that Death Knights are supposed to behave a certain way, because that is how they are programmed. They were killed and reconstructed as undead soldiers, and should act as such. I thought it might be helpful to remind people of this, as well as cover any other bases with a nice guide.

[muhaha8]

... I believe this thread isn't really going anywhere. We lost the intended focus quite some time ago. I think the concensus needs to be that we all agree to disagree on our ideas regarding this, and let it go to the folks who actually make the decisions around here.