Conquest of the Horde

Do it Krent, I wanted to offer my own opinion but by the time I was going to post there were three pages+ :[

(04-21-2012, 06:03 PM)Krent Wrote: [ -> ]I dunno what's going on this thread anymore D:

Me neither, Krent. Me neither.

The .addrp option seems to be like bread. And we're the ducks in the pond. It's a useful tool to get us to do something, because it's awesome (though I still agree with its effect on an in-game economy) and we love it.

To echo Rigley, it's not going away. No, I'm not a GM. But, I can't see sense in taking it away.

That's all. I cannot understand the going back to this thing like it's a punishment for players that like to dress up.

To echo Krent, it's an economy. An economy, not returning to a discussion about IC currency.

You pay for more resources that are possibly to-be limited (.addrp stuff) via currency (profiles). Call me a cold hearted capitalist pig-dog, but I think it makes things more valuable, and all in all, would be better for the community. When people want things, they will do what they can to get them.

Feel free to make another thread! I've no issue with that; I just don't feel up to task to deal with two discussions in this one, especially when one has already spanned eleven pages of posts.

That being said: I personally have... more or less given up concerning IC currency. I made one of the initial pushes, and thought it to be a great idea, but in the end I've just found myself frustrated. I will be quite clear in stating that again, that's just me-- I've just become very disheartened with dealing with the stuff, as bad as that may sound.

http://wiki.conquestofthehorde.com/Chara...ning_Signs

I just thought I'd toss this up here. Now, this section does say "Don't panic if you fall into this", but it's also very cautionary that these things can lead to "Warnings", meaning signs of weak character design. This was created long ago, but I think it all rings very true, especially considering the discussions we've had in here. It all seems to ring true with me.

Quote:You already know that you will need much more powerful gear.


Your character requires a certain weapon/mount/piece of armor/whatever before you can roleplay at all.

Only two of the many lines pertain to this, but it's still good to look at just in case you have any questions as to why I feel the way I do about armor. CoTH has had this standpoint for years... and I think that .add has spoiled us all to thinking we need armor to RP.

Plain and simple. We don't. This isn't Skype RP even if we say that, there's still visual representation.

Actually, it doesn't really say don't panic, as much as it literally says that just because you have a few of these problems does not mean you have a bad character.

Quote:--IF ONE OR TWO THINGS APPLY TO YOUR CHARACTER, OR A CHARACTER YOU ARE PLANNING, IT DOES NOT ABSOLUTELY MEAN THAT THEY ARE A POOR CHARACTER!

Just saying...

It's not about letting gear decide our ability to RP. It's about us having access to the gear and many not seeing a problem with it, and now there is talk about opinions that it should be taken away.

Yes, we could live and RP without .addrp/with it limited.

Doesn't mean we want to...

Yes it does. It actually, literally says, "DON'T PANIC."

Quote:Keep in mind, if one or two things apply to your character...


DON'T PANIC

One of the things too.. this doesn't take away the ability to get gear. This makes it so that you -can-, you just have to actually post a profile. You can still get that one gear set if this idea is put in place.

(04-22-2012, 11:16 AM)Aadora Wrote: [ -> ]as much as

(04-22-2012, 11:16 AM)Aadora Wrote: [ -> ]literally

If you wish to argue semantics, both were literally stated.

It's also very hard to argue say a piece of writing means, especially since it was most likely written at least four years ago and by a person that isn't active on the server any more. It's a subjective guide and we're applying our own subjective take on it. I'd be loathe to use that as an example, Rensin, just on that basis.

... From some things being said, I'm starting to feel as though there are arguments being made for the sake of having an argument.

If you feel as though you are just bashing heads at a point, I would advise refraining from posting in the thread.

Bashing heads hurts, anyway!

(04-20-2012, 01:37 PM)Rigley Wrote: [ -> ]The solution is pretty obvious-- just throw away the tokens or .addrp.

Honestly, I use both of these things and I find them pretty useful. Yet, when I read your post, I realized you are completely correct. RP does suffer from the fact that players get too many goodies.

Back in the old days, people worked on their characters for hours to get what items they needed. They were actually putting way more effort in all this. And this made their characters unique. This made them stand out. When one does so much work on their character, they get the proper feeling for him/her and they care much more about the RP with the said char. The Silver Tokens also provided people with other items, which they could use for RP, not only clothes and stuff. I mean, I've been trying for months to get all the Tomes of Polymorph with no success. This is why I liked the Silver Tokens.

So, basically, everything in a few sentences:
Rigley is absolutely correct and I think that the server and the RP on it would only benefit from removing the .ad and Bronze Tokens. They looked like a good, even great, idea when they were introduced. They even looked like a great idea ten minutes ago, before I read this thread. But now, I believe that we'd be better off without them.

Aye. I will repeat that my opinion has not changed from my initial idea-- I still dislike both bronze tokens and (mostly) .addrp. But I realize that to say that should be removed would just be chasing after a solution which would only create drama and in the end would produce... nothing.

So I won't even be trying to argue the point that they should be removed. They won't, heh. I've kinda posted multiple times that I believe the compromise of the level 80 unlimited use and the restrained one prior, and I still support that that would be the better one to work with.

As a man of the extreme, I believe that it won't hurt for them to be completely remove, honestly. I mean, the previous system worked before, why wouldn't it work now? Yes, it will take some time for people to get used to it and in the beginning it would be kinda odd and tense, but after some time people will get used to it. There will always be folks that believe the new system is better, but that's personal opinion and everybody has the right to have it and say it out loud. Still, I believe that if the Bronze Tokens and .ad get completely removed, this will greatly enhance RP. After all, there are some cheap clothes for sale in the OOC Cavern, so I see no reason for people to use .ad this much. The server economy and RP could only benefit from such an action.

Simply put: I vote for the extreme measure (despite the fact that I realize it won't be taken).