Grakor's Rambling Rant on the Server

[Wuvvums]

Perhaps we all need our own roleplay rant threads then! :<

[Kira13]

Perhaps we should stop our quarrels?

[Kira13]

Games are meant to be enjoyed. It starts being work when it's a chore.

If this is all a game, why can't we all just try to enjoy it instead of jumping at each other's throats over it?

And since I cannot pretend to be something I am not, I am at my heart, Uthaniel. Which means this post seriously can't be entirely serious.
So here's a video.
Of puppies.
And kittens.
And it's about friendship!
And it's silly.
Enjoy!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYLsyNBnE5M[/youtube]

[Psychyn]

You're...absolutely right on this point. I can't say, 'cause I'm just some dood who hasn't played retail in like, 6 years. The last time I signed up for legal-WoW was back in 2005, and I ended up quitting because of them assumptions. I have no idea. What the hell was I talking about? Jeeze.

It's alright! I'm not that much of a Blizzard fan myself at some times but from the recent adventures of me on Retail, I'm actually quite positive nowadays. Response time is short, people are helpful and I've actually seen a banning once or twice if only temporarily for people that only flamed their rears off in dungeons and BG's. Granted, that ain't roleplay but I think Blizzard it's aim is currently more aimed at Diablo 3 then WoW.

And we have to remember, WoW isn't a core RP game. ;3 That it's possible, doesn't mean it's supported in all the ways us RPers would like to see. But hey, that's where creativity kicks in. <3

Oh, but they will. And I appreciate your honesty.

My pleasure, reading my post back I could have possibly worded it softer. My apologies for that.

To re-iterate, everything regarding custom content is a labor of love. Some doods and / or doodettes have to sit down and build all of that crap from the ground up, and I really dig that. Every time a new area, city, tavern, etc opens up, I'm always taken back by the "Wooooooooooooooow" factor. Maybe I'm stupid like that. With all of the custom NPC's and pretty lights and buildings and all of that. I think GM's need to be praised more when they throw together a good custom-content area.

Actually, I find myself in that as well but rather with entire new genre games. Oblivion gave me that, Mass effect 2, and many other awesome games. I don't know why WoW doesn't give me that 100% "Wow" factor, but regardless.. A lot of work is still put into it as you said, but sometimes it's just not what I as person deem to be fitting or awesome. But hey, we all got our likes and dislikes.

Its the same kinda factor that always floors me whenever I see people's awesome bases in Minecraft / Terraria. I'm just like "Dayumn, you made a whole golden-brick castle with lava pits and stuff. All I ever did was throw up a 6-room wood building...".

Pain, ain't it? xD

On an other topic ;

I personally adore girl-mance but it peeves me that so many lesbian relationships are there for the sake of being a lesbian relationship, with both partners being hyper-sexualized or stereotyped, and both being played by men. I don't mind what people do with their rp, but I would call more of the lesbian rp on this server more of a fetish and stereotype than in actual support of lesbians.

I got nothing against lesbians, but I do feel it isn't my job to support them. At least half of my toons are girl aimed (If not 80%), and while I've been meaning to try out the other side of the coin, I somehow felt less secure with that so sticked with the ladies. I admit though, I'm a sucker for two well played characters, romancing in a world full of wars. Whether guy or girl.

As for the supporting thing ; What can I do for them as a guy other then enjoy the freely allowed girl-nances we got here? I really wouldn't know.

Besides, what if it's just a fetish? I'm sure that nobody means to bash lesbians in any way with it. They just enjoy the experimental side we guys never get to experience unless we do major surgery. ... And Yeah, I ain't planning that. ^.~

Still, this is getting somewhat off topic. ^^ A interesting topic, but still an off one. <3

[Dilly]

I for one like the server.

[Cressy]

Girlmance shiz

Coming from someone who has been in a legit lesbian relationship, I have to say the stereotypes do bug the crap out of me. It isn't that most of the time the characters are doing the deed, or that they make out in public all the time...or you know, that they grope people and act like it is okay. No, it is the whole, "My character is a lesbian and that is all she is." Sexuality should add to the character and not BE the character. If ya get my drift. Oh, and that a lot of the time it looks forced. Anyways..

It is sort of like draenei's and them being turned on by their tail's being tugged. No. It isn't sensitive and even if it was...would you do that to the male genitalia? Just saying. I have not once seen a cat, dog, horse, genericanimalwithtail ever like their tail being tugged. My son has scars on his arms to prove they don't...

It just bugs me...

I got offtopic didn't I?

Like Hawk said, people only use custom content when it is new and shiny..but when the new toy is old and used, they do not like it anymore. If the staff were smart parents, taking away a few locations during a month and reintroducing them the next while taking away others? Well, it works for my son.

[Jurkey]

If you're not in with the cool kids...you're not in with the cool kids, and you're exiled to tavern RP. All the good deep serious stuff will only be available to the kids who are willing to make the character type that's 'in' right now.

I bet a good amount of people (Me included) here can relate to that. Perhaps that is the problem you're having with RP, sadly. I'm sure there would be people willing to have random RP all the time, but it often leads to tavern RP, which isn't a favourite of everyone.
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As for the privacy of banned players, it would cause a bit of a rift if the details were released and if they were withheld. I can't really say much on that as a player, myself.
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As for the other issues, I'm sure good points have been made and I'd rather not beat those topics anymore, myself.

Feeling you guys. The problem is that having cool random RP is -really- tough, and I'm not much for personally /w everyone on GMI to beg for RP. So what usually happens is that I RP with the people I usually RP with, or occasionally finding some cool random RP. Some of the best RPs I ever had have been RPs where I've just announced in the LFG chat that I was in need of RP, and someone I've never seen before whispered me and we set something up somewhere.

Unfortunately I think some people can't be arsed to find new people to RP with, based on OOC laziness or something else. We are here to enjoy RPing, and I couldn't care less if I'm RPing with my OOC friend, or something I just randomly met on my way to Stormwind - it's the RP I seek. I do like the community as a whole, but I think some people forget that we should be here for the RP itself, not for the community's sake(atleast counts for me). The fact that we have cool members is just the topping of the icecream, but I don't get the point in logging in and standing on GMI all day - then we could might aswell just have a chatroom or something to chat with our fellow CotHlings.

/ramble

[Wuvvums]

I think you missed my point, Psychyn. I am not saying you have to support lesbians, I am saying that there are legitimate reasons to criticize lesbian roleplay without disliking lesbians.

[Ben]

I didn't actually cover every point! What?
I'm back from my haircut and a day of owling by the way, hai!

Enforcement:
It's done right, really. Don't bother complaining because you genuinely will not know what's been going on. Unless you're some kind of boogie monster who was peering out of the wardrobe behind their back while they were playing. And, well, that's just damn CREEPY.

More on custom content:
The custom content usually seems to focus on a CITY. What Booty Bay has, as an example, is an area outside of the city where the players can go for...other, more nefarious, things. As well as vendors. I like vendors. I reckon with the inclusion of those things areas would be used more, but then that's an opinion.

EDITTT!!!
To come back on Jurkey, I play here for the community. I like you guys. Not so much for the RP, these days. I don't think that's a bad thing, I think it's a bonus. And yes, I do random RP. It's all I do. With ANYBODY. But only if I feel like it! There's some days when you just don't want to, and would prefer to sit around and have an idle chat with the guys on GMI. I enjoy that.

Krent's spoilers:
I really like them, do long posts like that more, it made it a joy to read. I dislike text walls.

[Psychyn]

I think you missed my point, Psychyn. I am not saying you have to support lesbians, I am saying that there are legitimate reasons to criticize lesbian roleplay without disliking lesbians.

Seems I did then! Teehee, can't always hit the wood with the first nail, right?

Regardless, seeing it's criticism about RP ; I'd say let people RP what they want, and tell yourself you don't have to like it as I've done so many times. I can write long about the subject, but I'll just ask ; Why does it bother you, that people RP in a form you dislike? Why can't you just.. look away? Everyone that has accepted got a right to be on the server, and unless it breaks any rules/policies, their RP form is allowed as much as yours. ( I didn't add lore, for I can't recall that there is a rule that people are "forced" to follow lore at all times. Maybe there is, Iunno. )

It's not aimed at you Wuvvums, just a general question. ^^ But for myself, if I see 'bad' lesbian RP, it really doesn't change my view on lesbian people. RP is RP, and is not related to RL.

.. I'm not sure if I hit the point this time, I've had some alcoholic beverages after a long day but figured I'd give it a try nonetheless! Can't do any harm, right?

... I'll stop going off topic now. Maybe PM me otherwise Wuvv? <3 Also, love the picture. Teehee.

[Grakor456]

Stuff about lesbian RP is off-topic.

Seriously, if you're going to talk about same-sex couples in one of my threads, should at least be about man-love.

[Psychyn]

Owh Grakor.. I'd bro fist you any day.

... That better?

*Runs off*

[Kira13]

If I see 'bad' lesbian RP, it really doesn't change my view on lesbian people. RP is RP, and is not related to RL.

Smart man.. err, woman.. wait a minute!
Anyways, I hope this concludes and ends the offtopic talk.

[Reigen]

Stuff about lesbian RP is off-topic.

Seriously, if you're going to talk about same-sex couples in one of my threads, should at least be about man-love.

This is relevant to my interests.

[I really have no long rant to post. I just lawed at this.]

[Etmosril]

I've often longed for a little more clarity in banning. The current rules don't give much disclosure (if any). It protects a banned person's privacy, yes, - but then you have tens of people who are outraged by the ban because they think their buddy was treated unfairly. Anyone here can put themselves in those shoes: what would you think if a friend of yours was banned, and the people who made the decision gave out no information about why?

You'd probably end up resenting the GMs who did it, right? Especially if you thought bannee was a really nice person. Be honest.

So by the time the process is over, you have one banned person who's glad you've kept their information private. Maybe. That's great, except you're not playing with that person anymore. They've ceased to be a part of the community, so you won't reap the benefits of treating them nicely.

On the other hand, the people who haven't been banned now actively dislike you. And they're the ones who are still around.

You can see how this thing is a breeding ground for resentment and further bans.

So whether to share information or not? It comes down to which is better: favoring the banned person, or favoring the remaining players. And you should favor the players - it reduces further problems, and gives a very strong disincentive for people to get themselves banned in the first place. If it makes their former friends hate them, tough. At least they're not hating the GMs.


My two cents.