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Prestige Applications: OPEN
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The Prestige System

A message from the GMs and Admins:
Spoiler:
The prestige system has been a point of contention for a very long time now. Since we first implemented the prestige system we have been struggling to find that ‘sweet spot’ that will allow players to both advance their character in a meaningful way while not inundating the server with over-powered heroes and villains. It has been, during its many incarnations, too restricted, too lax, too broad and too narrow.

For many months now the prestige application process has been closed. Four months ago we decided to try again. Ever since then we have been creating our own prestiges, working every day for over four months to make a system that will allow the players the chance to enjoy playing a prestige character.

And this is a gift from me, who suggested this over-haul a few days after I became a full GM.

This is a gift from Kretol and Grakor, who first gave their blessing to this project.

This is a gift from all of the Game Moderators, who sat down to compile information and write out a prestige sheet –which includes information and abilities for over two dozen classes- for each character.

This is a gift from BountyHunter, Xigo and Krilari, who read through each of these prestige posts, reviewing them and checking each for lore consistency and reasonable abilities.

This is a gift from Grakor, who spent an entire day putting his administrative stamp on each sheet.

This is a gift from Dilly, who spent an entire day and night putting these sheets on the wiki.

This is a gift from both the Game Moderators and Administrators to the players.

You deserve this, Conquest of the Horde. We are proud to serve you.

Delivered with our warmest regards,
The Management

PAST SYSTEMS:

We will first take a moment to discuss how this system will effect past prestiges.

All players who have a complete prestige will have these new rules apply to them. Their prestige will count towards the three prestige limit and the Custom Prestige requirements.

All characters who previously had a Class 1 Prestige from the last system will no longer be counted as prestige characters. They will be considered variants, for the sake of this system.

Necromancers and Runemasters who completed a prestige thread from the previous system will be given the option to ‘bump up’ to a prestige without any training. Necromancers will become Graven Ones and Runemasters Bone Crushers.

If you have any questions about the prestige system submit them to a GM either in game or via PM.

CLASS:

During the debate working up to the decision to open up the prestiges once more a consensus was reached that the new system would not rely exclusively on lore and classes taken from D20, Warcraft 1, 2 and 3 or World of Warcraft. It was agreed that prestige made in this way did not necessarily align with the rules and policies that we have set out on the server. Instead the classes in this new system would be created by the GMs specifically with role-playing on Conquest of the Horde in mind.

In a small part these new classes will be based on lore and inspiration taken from D20, WC 1, 2 and 3 and WoW. However, the majority of information presented to the player base for use will have come from the combined efforts and creative work of the GM team.

Information on these classes will be posted on designated pages on the wiki. Each page will contain the name of the class, what race and base class can play it, background information, powers and abilities the class may possess and other non-specific information needed to play the character. These pages are designed as a guide to be used by players who are unsure on the limits and breadth of their prestige powers.

As of 7/14/2011 these are the current prestiges that you can apply for:
Gunslinger
Burning Legionnaire
Diabolist
Ley Walker
Potion Doc
High Divinist
Dark Apothecary
Graven One
Bone Crusher
Templar
Demon Hunter
Blademaster
Tormentor
Spirit Walker
Whisper Blade
Mountain King
Archmage
Shadow Hunter
Steamwarrior
Dark Ranger
Priestess of the Moon
Beastmaster
Shadow Ascendant
Spirit Champion
Lightslayer
Pyremaster
Technomage
Warden
Primal
Myrmidon
Archdruid
Techslayer
Savagekin
Dragonsworn

APPLICATION:

The process to apply to become a prestige will be overseen strictly and the rules applied evenly and fairly. Members will have to meet a strict code of conduct and activity for their application to be approved.

Before they can submit an application to become a prestige, a member must be a grunt. The character they intend to use for the prestige must have been approved for over a month.

They must fill out the application below and submit it to a GM. The GM will then post it in a private forum to be critiqued by other GMs.

Player Name: (Name of the player)
Character Name: (Name of character to be made into a prestige)
Character Race: (Race of character to be made into a prestige)
Character Class: (Class of character to be made into a prestige)
Desired Prestige: (Desired prestige for character)
Training Process: (Give a vague overview of the storyline for the prestige)
What Will You Use This Character For?: (What will you ICly/OOCly use the character for?)
Why Do You Want This Prestige?: (What is your OOC motivation for the prestige?)
Provide a brief but comprehensive outline for your prestige title story arc. What will happen in it?: (Create a list of 16+, each numbered with a short sentence detailing what the post will contain. You may change this later.)
Include the intended first post of your prestige title story arc: (You may change it later if desired, but it is discouraged)

The outline allows the GMs to see if an adequate about of thought and foresight has been put into the title and, more importantly, the story arc beforehand.

The writing sample should be the intended first post of their prestige thread. It should allow the GMs to see the type of character that the player will be using and the tone and overall atmosphere that they can expect to see in this person's thread. The writing sample undoubtedly the most important piece of the application, aside from the GM staff's knowledge of the applicant

After submitting, the application will be posted in a private forum to be viewed by the GM team. It should be stressed that simply submitting an application does not necessarily mean that the applicant will receive the prestige.

GMs reserve the right to turn down an application for any reason, but denial will often be based on the following points:
  • For the sake of selectivity.
  • Has not been an active member of this server.
  • Is relatively new to the server and unaccustomed to the standards we try to meet.
  • Is unlikely to portray the character and their powers accurately.
  • Is likely to abuse the character and their powers.
  • Is likely to be disrespectful to those who would edit/critic their posts.
  • Has cited incidents of rule-breaking that would make them unfit candidates.
  • Is likely to abandon the process midway through.

If an applicant is denied, the staff is not required or obligated to provide a reason as to why. One may or may not be given.

At any time during the prestige process the GM team deems that the applicant is not upholding their standards the applicant's prestige process may be suspended or deleted.

PRESTIGE LIMIT:

We will not allow people to have more than three prestiges at any one time.

They will be allowed one prestige in the beginning. When they have completed their training they must wait two months. After that time they may submit a second application. If the GMs feel that they have done an adequate job on their first prestige and that they have been using their character responsibly then they will be given a second prestige. If they complete the second and wait the requisite two months, they may apply for a third. If they meet the criteria and have been found to take the responsibility of playing two characters well they will be allowed a third.

A player must permanently kill a prestige character if they wish to take on another. This character cannot be revived by any means. This is to prevent people from switching about between prestiges on a whim.

A character who has already completed a prestige thread and attained a prestige title cannot re-train for a different prestige without a complete ret-con, which is frowned upon because of the damage it may inflict on other role-plays.

TRAINING:

The training must be posted in training threads that are easily accessible and read on the forum. The training may either be done exclusively on the forum or may be IC transcripts formatted to fit readability standards.

A player will be allowed to post a maximum of two posts per week. The posting period is a calendar week, with the week beginning on Sunday and ending on Saturday. The first post they submit to the GMs counts as a prestige post.

Each post must be no less than 600 words. Allowances may be made on a case-by-case basis on extenuating circumstances.

A player's thread must have a minimum of 16 posts on it before it can be considered complete, as 16 is the base number of posts with two posts per week in a two month time frame. Players are, as always, encouraged to go above and beyond.

A person must submit to a GM a rough outline of what each post will contain and how it will be structured for their application. The GM will read over this outline and give it an approve/deny mark if they have no questions.

If they are given approval they may write and put up the post. If they are denied they must take the criticism given and re-write the outline before submitting it again.

When they have written all posts and the above requirements are met, the GM team will review the thread. If a majority approves it then it will be deemed complete. If they deny it, they will force the person to make the necessary changes before re-evaluating it.

A player is not require to inform a GM when they have posted or send the post to a GM for approval. The GM team will periodically read threads to check for lore consistency and, at the very end, will give the thread a full read before approving it.

A GM holds the right to, at any time, pause a person during their prestige process if they feel that the thread, its content or the process itself has not met the prestige system's standards.

CUSTOM PRESTIGE:

In this system a player is allowed to make a custom prestige. It is stressed that these prestiges can be both combat-oriented and non-combat-oriented.

To apply for a prestige they must be a grunt and have the intended character be approved for over a month's time. It is strongly encouraged to already have a single prestige character approved and finished, as the lack of one may weigh in favor against a player during the application process.

To apply, the applicant will sit down with a GM and discuss their ideas. Together with the GM, they will detail the custom prestige, create information, cite supporting information and provide information on their powers and abilities.

This proposal shall be submitted to the GM team. The GM team will scrutinize the application and the applicant, weighing whether they are trusted enough and responsible enough to create a prestige.

The prestige cannot have powers and abilities that would make them stronger than a normal prestige. Neither can they possess resistances or natural defenses that would put them at an advantage against all or a majority of existing classes and prestiges.

If they are approved their prestige will be added to the list of possible classes a player can select and they will begin training. The custom prestige can only be selected from the list after the original creator of the prestige has finished their thread and has been playing the character for two months.

The training process will follow the normal paths and requirements as listed above in the Training section.

PRESTIGE ENFORCMENT:

To ensure prestige characters do not abuse their powers a rigid system of oversight and punishments will be put in place.

If a player has been found to be poorly playing his character or using it to abuse other players in or out of combat, a GM will send them a verbal warning. The warning must detail the accusations against the player and cite the consequences for further infractions.

The player will have a chance to plead their case. Their case will be heard by the GMs and weighed upon.

If, after the first warning is issued, the character continues to use their prestige in a manner GMs find unsuitable for the server, the character, not player, will be banned for a month. They will be informed of such and the consequences for further infractions detailed.

If a third case occurs the player will have their prestige character permanently killed. After a period decided based on the severity of the infractions, the player will be able to re-submit an application for another prestige. The killed prestige will no longer count as a completed prestige.

Infractions and warnings will be listed in a separate warning thread within the private prestige sub-forum and will be used when considering the player for a prestige character.

Any questions may be posted in the below thread or PMed privately to a Game Moderator.
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(07-14-2011, 09:22 AM)Rosencrat Wrote: Each post must be no less than 600 words. Allowances may be made one case-by-case basis for rare situations.

A player's thread must have a minimum of 16 posts on it before it can be considered complete, as 16 is the base number of posts with two posts per week in a two month time frame. Players are, as always, encouraged to go above and beyond.

That fangirl squealing you're hearing in the background? That's me. We sorely needed a way to establish a standard for training posts.

It looks pretty strictly managed. Maybe more so than the first system. I'm hoping the GMs won't be overwhelmed by the applications they receive.

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(07-14-2011, 09:31 AM)Etmosril Wrote:
(07-14-2011, 09:22 AM)Rosencrat Wrote: Each post must be no less than 600 words. Allowances may be made one case-by-case basis for rare situations.

A player's thread must have a minimum of 16 posts on it before it can be considered complete, as 16 is the base number of posts with two posts per week in a two month time frame. Players are, as always, encouraged to go above and beyond.

That fangirl squealing you're hearing in the background? That's me. We sorely needed a way to establish a standard for training posts.

It looks pretty strictly managed. Maybe more so than the first system. I'm hoping the GMs won't be overwhelmed by the applications they receive.

Agreed, even if it makes me work harder.

EDIT: I was re-looking over the Prestiges, and didn't see Dead Shot. Does this mean Shivala is no longer a Prestige, or would she be made some other Prestige? I'm fine with either, but I'm just curious.
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#4
Quote:Necromancers and Runemasters from the previous system will be given the option to ‘bump up’ to a prestige without any training. Necromancers will become Graven Ones and Runemasters Bone Crushers.

That is the only thing I didn't understand... All runemasters and all necromancers can take the Graven One/Bonecrusher prestige without -any- IC training?

Other than that, seems like an excellent new system! Hoping to see it come to effect soon!
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(07-14-2011, 09:52 AM)Adam255 Wrote:
Quote:Necromancers and Runemasters from the previous system will be given the option to ‘bump up’ to a prestige without any training. Necromancers will become Graven Ones and Runemasters Bone Crushers.

That is the only thing I didn't understand... All runemasters and all necromancers can take the Graven One/Bonecrusher prestige without -any- IC training?

Other than that, seems like an excellent new system! Hoping to see it come to effect soon!

Was corrected to have a bit more clarity:

Runemasters and Necromancers used to be a prestige in the last two systems, requiring people to do a thread. People who completed a thread and made official Necromancers/Runemasters don't want their work being diminished with a sweep of the hand, transforming them back to simply variant classes.

As such, people who have -completed- prestige threads from the past systems can bump themselves up to an actual prestige if they so wish.
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(07-14-2011, 09:46 AM)FlyingSquirrel Wrote:
(07-14-2011, 09:31 AM)Etmosril Wrote:
(07-14-2011, 09:22 AM)Rosencrat Wrote: Each post must be no less than 600 words. Allowances may be made one case-by-case basis for rare situations.

A player's thread must have a minimum of 16 posts on it before it can be considered complete, as 16 is the base number of posts with two posts per week in a two month time frame. Players are, as always, encouraged to go above and beyond.

That fangirl squealing you're hearing in the background? That's me. We sorely needed a way to establish a standard for training posts.

It looks pretty strictly managed. Maybe more so than the first system. I'm hoping the GMs won't be overwhelmed by the applications they receive.

Agreed, even if it makes me work harder.

EDIT: I was re-looking over the Prestiges, and didn't see Dead Shot. Does this mean Shivala is no longer a Prestige, or would she be made some other Prestige? I'm fine with either, but I'm just curious.

Likely she would be switched to 'Gunslinger', which is essentially the Dead Shot and Gunslinger combined.
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#7
Edited the field about custom prestige to reflect a consensus reached between GMs and Administrators.
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#8
Out of curiosity, where did the Warden's blink go? It's one of their signature moves, so it's a little disconcerting to see it missing.
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(07-14-2011, 10:43 AM)Scout Wrote: Out of curiosity, where did the Warden's blink go? It's one of their signature moves, so it's a little disconcerting to see it missing.

There will be a method for editing or adding to prestiges up soon-ish; We'll take any ideas into consideration regarding other abilities, so be sure to post your concerns about such there!

You are right, though, and I don't foresee any problem with putting that ability through.
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#10
Will this post requirement also work retroactively?
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(07-14-2011, 10:38 AM)Xigo Wrote:
(07-14-2011, 09:46 AM)FlyingSquirrel Wrote:
(07-14-2011, 09:31 AM)Etmosril Wrote:
(07-14-2011, 09:22 AM)Rosencrat Wrote: Each post must be no less than 600 words. Allowances may be made one case-by-case basis for rare situations.

A player's thread must have a minimum of 16 posts on it before it can be considered complete, as 16 is the base number of posts with two posts per week in a two month time frame. Players are, as always, encouraged to go above and beyond.

That fangirl squealing you're hearing in the background? That's me. We sorely needed a way to establish a standard for training posts.

It looks pretty strictly managed. Maybe more so than the first system. I'm hoping the GMs won't be overwhelmed by the applications they receive.

Agreed, even if it makes me work harder.

EDIT: I was re-looking over the Prestiges, and didn't see Dead Shot. Does this mean Shivala is no longer a Prestige, or would she be made some other Prestige? I'm fine with either, but I'm just curious.

Likely she would be switched to 'Gunslinger', which is essentially the Dead Shot and Gunslinger combined.

I'm presuming I'll be allowed to just adapt all the Gunslinger spells to a more bow-based things. Is this okay?
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Awesome! Thank you for adding Warrior to the list of Spirit Champion classes, because now Kaghuros doesn't feel like a cheater anymore xD Bonus points for dividing the Fel Sworn into useful variants, and getting rid of the chaff in prestiges (Dead Shot/Gunslinger no longer separate classes, Totemic Druids not prestige, and other stuff like that).

Also, Burning Legionnaire is spelled wrong on the wiki browse bar at the bottom, making it unreachable from other prestige pages.
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#13
Ah, all right.

This system looks awesome. I can't wait to see it in action. Thanks for all of the effort you've put in.
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(07-14-2011, 10:57 AM)Etmosril Wrote: Will this post requirement also work retroactively?

No. So if you have completed a prestige in the past that is below 16 you will be allowed to keep it. Also, if you began a prestige process before this system was opened then you have no required post minimum.

(07-14-2011, 10:58 AM)FlyingSquirrel Wrote: I'm presuming I'll be allowed to just adapt all the Gunslinger spells to a more bow-based things. Is this okay?

Perfectly fine.

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Very cool.
The new wiki pages look great; I was just browsing through the Dark Ranger entry, and I was amazed at how much more detailed it is, compared to the previous version.
Gonna have to dedicate a night later this week to read through all of them.
Looks awesome, guys. Great job.
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